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Mystro-Sama on 22 January 2014

This isn't even diplomatic. EA is just being butthurt now for some strange reason.



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Kresnik on 22 January 2014
Mr Khan said:

That is the most puerile horseshit i have ever read.


Khan down.  You don't have to type this kind of response in every Nintendo-EA thread made.



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Samus Aran on 22 January 2014
Kane1389 said:
Samus Aran said:
Kane1389 said:
Samus Aran said:


Battlefield series
Burnout series
Command & Conquer series
Crysis series
Dead Space series
Dragon Age series
FIFA series
Fight Night series
Harry Potter series
Madden NFL series
Mass Effect series
Medal of Honor series
NBA Live series
NCAA Football series
Need for Speed series
NHL series
Rock Band series
SimCity series
The Simpsons series
The Sims series
Skate series
SSX series
Star Wars series

According to wiki those are their game franchises. Why on earth would I want to play any of those games? Most of them are just generic games that get yearly rehashes. Or even worse, licensed games.

I'm not a kid anymore, so I don't play FPS games. Because that's what kids like to do, pretend that they're soldiers. I never understood why people think those games are adult.

I'm pretty sure kids like to play FIFA as much as adults. Kids also like Star Wars games and Harry Potter(which is by the way definitely aimed at kids).

Ok, SSX 3 was a great game, I'll give them that. And I did enjoy the Sims when I was a kid. Haven't played one in ages though, so I don't know how the franchise is doing right now, quality wise that is. 

How on earth you can become the third biggest game company with shovelware like that is beyond me. I guess they're just riding on the sucess of big sports like football. And the popularity that FPS sadly still seem to have with the mainstream crowd. 

Ahh, a fanbase turning into elitist hipsters, a prime example of a company becoming irrelevant in the industry...


I'm not an elite hipster. Me being a Nintendo fan has nothing to do with me disliking EA games(except SSX 3, the only game I like from them, spent many hours playing it). 

Which company is irrelevant in the industry? Nintendo. They're by far the biggest game company in the industry. 

'''m not a kid anymore, so I don't play FPS games. Because that's what kids like to do, pretend that they're soldiers. I never understood why people think those games are adult. ''

''And the popularity that FPS sadly still seem to have with the mainstream crowd. ''

''How on earth you can become the third biggest game company with shovelware like that is beyond me.''

Yup, no hipster tendencies and elitism there.

Also, Nintendo is living of former glory, nostalgia and their Wii/DS profits. They are becoming increasingly irrelevant today

That's based on my own experience. When I was a kid I always wanted to play FPS. And the voice chat in games like COD prove my theory: most kids love to play FPS. 

I luckily grew out of it. 

Sorry if I don't like the yearly sports titles of EA or Harry Potter/Star Wars shovelware. Doesn't make me an elitist lol. 

Give me Star Wars: battlefront 3, I'll play that. As long as it isn't made by EA. 



LemonSlice on 22 January 2014
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
Battlefield is a thousand times more a kid game than SMB3DW or Wind Waker are, try again EA.


Hmmmm... okay, I see some reasoning in that... NOT. Or is "kid" the new "gay" or something?

Pretending to be a soldier is the old and current "kid".

Enjoying the two other games I mentioned belongs in any age group.


So it's a kids game because a lot of kids play it sorta like they're playing grown-up? I feel EA are not assholes because they called Nintendo games kids games, but because they made it sound like there's something wrong with that. The Wii was a success because it was family friendly, the WiiU actually scared off a lot of that userbase in Nintendo's fruitless attemps of trying to attract "core gamers".

Nintendo games are made with kids and families in mind. If you never had a childhood, or don't have feelings of nostalgia and wanting to feel young again, you wouldn't play them. There's something very positive about having an inner child and if you were forced into maturity early in life, you'd be a much poorer man for it, probably cynical, angry and paranoid. At the very least just boring and dull.

Perhaps correct with Mario, but not necessarily with Metroid Prime or Zelda (at least the Zeldas I played). The world in the latter two is in big part ambience, I feel. Both kids and adults can get into the universes presented in both, if by imagination, or by getting integrated into the games' atmosphere - the backstories, environment, and music, all work toward that purpose. I feel that that is quite universal and quite a bit more mature than some jokes that people present as "mature" games.

I could make a side point as to how most war games are just plain immature, but that would really drag on and detract from the above.

So you believe in maturity eh? Sorry, but I believe in God. God wants us to be his children. The person who wanted us to be mature was Adolf Hitler.



Xen on 22 January 2014
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:


So it's a kids game because a lot of kids play it sorta like they're playing grown-up? I feel EA are not assholes because they called Nintendo games kids games, but because they made it sound like there's something wrong with that. The Wii was a success because it was family friendly, the WiiU actually scared off a lot of that userbase in Nintendo's fruitless attemps of trying to attract "core gamers".

Nintendo games are made with kids and families in mind. If you never had a childhood, or don't have feelings of nostalgia and wanting to feel young again, you wouldn't play them. There's something very positive about having an inner child and if you were forced into maturity early in life, you'd be a much poorer man for it, probably cynical, angry and paranoid. At the very least just boring and dull.

Perhaps correct with Mario, but not necessarily with Metroid Prime or Zelda (at least the Zeldas I played). The world in the latter two is in big part ambience, I feel. Both kids and adults can get into the universes presented in both, if by imagination, or by getting integrated into the games' atmosphere - the backstories, environment, and music, all work toward that purpose. I feel that that is quite universal and quite a bit more mature than some jokes that people present as "mature" games.

I could make a side point as to how most war games are just plain immature, but that would really drag on and detract from the above.

So you believe in maturity eh? Sorry, but I believe in God. God wants us to be his children. The person who wanted us to be mature was Adolf Hitler.

Off the top of my head, Hitler wanted his kids to have the "glare of a wolf" and be the next soldiers or something
I don't necessarily believe in maturity for kids, I just believe that the gaming industry has it wrong for showing some vastly immature content as "mature". Worse yet, many gamers agreeing.

But that is me. EA is not the only one I loathe.



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bonzobanana on 22 January 2014

I know I can't speak for most people but I bought a wii u at launch purely for exclusive wii u games and wii compatibility. If there were any multiformat games enhanced on wii u I would consider those too but wasn't expecting many of those. I couldn't have been less interested in Mass Effect 3 when I already had all 3 for 360 and the wii u version was weaker than 360. Utterly pointless.

There may be people out there who bought the wii u as an all round console to replace their existing console but it has to be said that would be a very poor choice. When wii u multiformat games hit the bargain bucket I have bought a few. I bought black ops 2 as it was a tenner, much cheaper than the superior ps3 and 360 versions at the time.

EA half-heartedly supported wii u just in case it took off and then realising it was failing left it to die. You can't blame them. They are just responding to consumer reaction to the wii u.

Wii u is weak hardware it doesn't really excel in any areas apart from the novelty of a touch screen game pad. The reason the wii u has failed is purely down to Nintendo not consumers or software publishers. They totally compromised the design in order to try to make huge profits from weak underpowered hardware. It failed and now Nintendo are in a difficult situation having to sell something which in many ways underperforms compared to 360 and PS3.

I'm not defending EA just feel the blame game should be pointed directly at Nintendo and their mis-management. Was it EA who totally compromised the performance of wii u. Was it EA that removed something as simple as analogue triggers from the gamepad? Was it EA who told them to sell such a low spec console at a hugely inflated price? Was it EA that removed any additional functionality from the console like being a media centre or blur-ray/dvd player?



Samus Aran on 22 January 2014
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
Battlefield is a thousand times more a kid game than SMB3DW or Wind Waker are, try again EA.


Hmmmm... okay, I see some reasoning in that... NOT. Or is "kid" the new "gay" or something?

Pretending to be a soldier is the old and current "kid".

Enjoying the two other games I mentioned belongs in any age group.


So it's a kids game because a lot of kids play it sorta like they're playing grown-up? I feel EA are not assholes because they called Nintendo games kids games, but because they made it sound like there's something wrong with that. The Wii was a success because it was family friendly, the WiiU actually scared off a lot of that userbase in Nintendo's fruitless attemps of trying to attract "core gamers".

Nintendo games are made with kids and families in mind. If you never had a childhood, or don't have feelings of nostalgia and wanting to feel young again, you wouldn't play them. There's something very positive about having an inner child and if you were forced into maturity early in life, you'd be a much poorer man for it, probably cynical, angry and paranoid. At the very least just boring and dull.

Perhaps correct with Mario, but not necessarily with Metroid Prime or Zelda (at least the Zeldas I played). The world in the latter two is in big part ambience, I feel. Both kids and adults can get into the universes presented in both, if by imagination, or by getting integrated into the games' atmosphere - the backstories, environment, and music, all work toward that purpose. I feel that that is quite universal and quite a bit more mature than some jokes that people present as "mature" games.

I could make a side point as to how most war games are just plain immature, but that would really drag on and detract from the above.

So you believe in maturity eh? Sorry, but I believe in God. God wants us to be his children. The person who wanted us to be mature was Adolf Hitler.

I could make an awful joke about God wanting us to be children. In my country the Catholic priests have a bad reputation with regards to children... 



hinch on 22 January 2014
AZWification said:
late_release said:
Wii U, you are doomed.

 Yes.. The Wii U is doomed for not getting  polished masterpieces like  Battlefield 4 and FIFA 14. Clearly missing out.

Unfortunately for Nintendo, those games are big sellers. And the audience for those games are nowhere to be found on the Wii U.

OT: The wording EA uses may not the best, but the audience for their software don't really align with demographics of Nintendo consoles (look up the Wii U software sales). Nor that of most other third party publishers, it seems.



zippy on 22 January 2014
naruball said:
Can anyone tell me what was wrong with Mass Efeect 3?

Nothing, its a good port, but all the kudos from me will go to straight right who handled the port. 



Samus Aran on 22 January 2014
hinch said:
AZWification said:
late_release said:
Wii U, you are doomed.

 Yes.. The Wii U is doomed for not getting  polished masterpieces like  Battlefield 4 and FIFA 14. Clearly missing out.

Unfortunately for Nintendo, those games are big sellers. And the audience for those games are nowhere to be found on the Wii U.

OT: The wording EA uses may not the best, but the audience for their software don't really align with demographics of Nintendo consoles (look up the Wii U software sales). Nor that of most other third party publishers, it seems.

What's stopping them from making games that suit the Wii U demographic? 

A game similar to Zelda wouldn't sell on other consoles? Or does EA know they're vastly inferior to Nintendo and too afraid to try and make a decent adventure game or 2D/3D platformer? 

At least Ubisoft proved they can rival Nintendo when it comes to 2D platformers. In regards to quality that is. Ubisoft should have released that game sooner though, when there weren't many good games on the Wii U. Would've sold much better then in my opinion. Leaving a finished product on the shelves for 7 months wasn't the best decision they made. Too bad Nintendo is doing it as well with Donkey Kong Country: tropical freeze. That game will sell because of its name though.