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Kresnik said:
Mr Khan said:

That is the most puerile horseshit i have ever read.


Khan down.  You don't have to type this kind of response in every Nintendo-EA thread made.

This one is pretty bad compared to some of their other statements. The spin just makes me mad.



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Mr Khan said:

This one is pretty bad compared to some of their other statements. The spin just makes me mad.


Yes, but when you say this about every single thing they ever said ever, it kind of takes away the impact of what you're trying to get across.



Sh1nn said:

"It became a kids IP platform and we don't really make games for kids. That was pretty true across the other labels too. Even the Mass Effect title on Wii U, which was a solid effort, could never do big business, and EA like Activision is only focused on games that can be big franchises".

Of course, because kids don't play Battlefield or sports games...




Expecting Wii U Owners to buy Mass Effect 3 is like expecting someone to watch The Hobbit 3 when he hasn't watched the first two.

I believe that regardless of what is said, it is important for Nintendo to work on developer relations. They must work with developers to align release dates, secure some funding, do co-operative marketing, and finding the right titles. I will use Activision as an example, games like Call of a Duty are not really a good choice to develop for Wii U due to lower sales potential caused by the system having a narrow demographics (the install base is too low and made of a very narrow demographic); but games like Skylanders have much better potential currently and so Nintendo and Activision should work with each other in order make the most of this franchise on the system. In this area, Nintenco has to put in a greater effort and devise a strategy with third-parties.

On the other hand, EA is losing an opportunity to cater to this younger demographic. I do not believe it is very healthy for EA to just target the older male demographic when they have the potential to do so much more. I would bet that if they put Plants Vs. Zombies on Wii U eShop and update the 3DS version then they would get reasonable sales and profits (yes the sales would generate them much less than what they make on mobile but it would still be pretty good).



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Expecting Wii U Owners to buy Mass Effect 3 is like expecting someone to watch The Hobbit 3 when he hasn't watched the first two.

Third party publishers have just released so much shovelware on the Wii (U) that Wii (U) owners have become wary of buying their games. Third party publishers are also too afraid to compete with Nintendo games, so they don't put much effort in their games. It's a never ending viceous circle.

Why would a company care whether their money comes from little kids, teenagers or adults? It makes no sense. 



Kresnik said:
Mr Khan said:

This one is pretty bad compared to some of their other statements. The spin just makes me mad.


Yes, but when you say this about every single thing they ever said ever, it kind of takes away the impact of what you're trying to get across.


One of the many reasons I think you're the smartest poster on VGC. Nothing against Khan, just really like your observations.



Kresnik said:
Mr Khan said:

This one is pretty bad compared to some of their other statements. The spin just makes me mad.


Yes, but when you say this about every single thing they ever said ever, it kind of takes away the impact of what you're trying to get across.

(blushes). Yeah, probably. I don't know what it was early last year, something in the water or that terrible job i had, but i was more ornery than i've ever been.

This statement here, though. This just ain't right.



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Xen said:
LemonSlice said:
Xen said:
LemonSlice said:


So it's a kids game because a lot of kids play it sorta like they're playing grown-up? I feel EA are not assholes because they called Nintendo games kids games, but because they made it sound like there's something wrong with that. The Wii was a success because it was family friendly, the WiiU actually scared off a lot of that userbase in Nintendo's fruitless attemps of trying to attract "core gamers".

Nintendo games are made with kids and families in mind. If you never had a childhood, or don't have feelings of nostalgia and wanting to feel young again, you wouldn't play them. There's something very positive about having an inner child and if you were forced into maturity early in life, you'd be a much poorer man for it, probably cynical, angry and paranoid. At the very least just boring and dull.

Perhaps correct with Mario, but not necessarily with Metroid Prime or Zelda (at least the Zeldas I played). The world in the latter two is in big part ambience, I feel. Both kids and adults can get into the universes presented in both, if by imagination, or by getting integrated into the games' atmosphere - the backstories, environment, and music, all work toward that purpose. I feel that that is quite universal and quite a bit more mature than some jokes that people present as "mature" games.

I could make a side point as to how most war games are just plain immature, but that would really drag on and detract from the above.

So you believe in maturity eh? Sorry, but I believe in God. God wants us to be his children. The person who wanted us to be mature was Adolf Hitler.

Off the top of my head, Hitler wanted his kids to have the "glare of a wolf" and be the next soldiers or something
I don't necessarily believe in maturity for kids, I just believe that the gaming industry has it wrong for showing some vastly immature content as "mature". Worse yet, many gamers agreeing.

But that is me. EA is not the only one I loathe.

ESRB rate their games based on content, not some subjective level of sophistication or whatever. So that's what that word means to a lot of gamers. Don't worry, gamers don't think they're sophisticated when they play games rated Mature, they understands it just means how inappropriate the content is. But many people, yes, including kids and adults, like inappropriate content regardless of how sophisticated it has been presented. Maturity is an umbrella term, it can mean anything, and it means a lot of different things to a lot of different people.

The problem with maturity as an ideal, as something greater than, IMO, is that it allows influential people to impose or enforce their own ideas of how we should behave onto others, instead of allowing individuals to shape themselves. It's worrying to say the least. 



Samus Aran said:
hinch said:
AZWification said:
late_release said:
Wii U, you are doomed.

 Yes.. The Wii U is doomed for not getting  polished masterpieces like  Battlefield 4 and FIFA 14. Clearly missing out.

Unfortunately for Nintendo, those games are big sellers. And the audience for those games are nowhere to be found on the Wii U.

OT: The wording EA uses may not the best, but the audience for their software don't really align with demographics of Nintendo consoles (look up the Wii U software sales). Nor that of most other third party publishers, it seems.

What's stopping them from making games that suit the Wii U demographic? 

A game similar to Zelda wouldn't sell on other consoles? Or does EA know they're vastly inferior to Nintendo and too afraid to try and make a decent adventure game or 2D/3D platformer? 

Nothing. Besides porting existing/new titles.. But why should they? When franchises like; Battlefield, FIFA, Crysis etc sell on other platforms and are making them money, what reason is there to support a console to a userbase that do not buy the games?

EA's recent offering are big AAA titles, sports, PC sims and mobile games. These are the type of software that do not fair well on Nintendo consoles. There isn't much they can do about it. The audience have already moved onto other platforms.

It doesn't have anything to do with how well their games compare to Nintendo.