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generic-user-1 on 18 January 2014
DanneSandin said:
Why would Nintendo go 3rd party now? It doesn't make sense. As soon as the cost for producing the Wii U comes down, the 3DS will start to make money for Nintendo, and simply not just off putting the losses of the WIi U. Sure, they won't earn as much money as they did during the DS/Wii era, but they'll do good enough to make a come back next gen.

Going third party would mean: paying royalties to the other console makers, thus losing out on money. And the PS4/X1 crowed doesn't seem to be too eager to play Nintendo games; how much did LBP sell? Or LBP Karting/Playstation All-STar? Not even the Jak and Daxter series, by everybodys favorites Naughty Dog, did well compared to Nintendo's games. And that was on the PS3 AND PS2 (which had a user base of 150+m), which arguably has a more diverse library than the X360. Therefore we have to ask ourselves, is there a big enough crowed on these consoles (PS4/X1) to earn back the royalties Nintendo is paying Sony/MS? Probably not, going by other games similar to those Nintendo is making.

This is hard facts backed up with sales of historically similar games to those of Nintendo. This tells us that Nintendo probably wouldn't do as well on these consoles as some would wish they did. Would the Nintendo faithful follow Nintendo to other platforms? Maybe, but we can't be certain about that. They might just as well go to the 3DS for their Nintendo fix.

Nintendo would be far better off just doing handheld games for the rest of the generation, while working on next gen console(s).

I would LOVE to hear some GOOD counter arguments to this. Come at me bro, and I'll serve you crow.

they should make ONE Mariogame for ps4/xbone. 



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DanneSandin on 18 January 2014
generic-user-1 said:
DanneSandin said:
Why would Nintendo go 3rd party now? It doesn't make sense. As soon as the cost for producing the Wii U comes down, the 3DS will start to make money for Nintendo, and simply not just off putting the losses of the WIi U. Sure, they won't earn as much money as they did during the DS/Wii era, but they'll do good enough to make a come back next gen.

Going third party would mean: paying royalties to the other console makers, thus losing out on money. And the PS4/X1 crowed doesn't seem to be too eager to play Nintendo games; how much did LBP sell? Or LBP Karting/Playstation All-STar? Not even the Jak and Daxter series, by everybodys favorites Naughty Dog, did well compared to Nintendo's games. And that was on the PS3 AND PS2 (which had a user base of 150+m), which arguably has a more diverse library than the X360. Therefore we have to ask ourselves, is there a big enough crowed on these consoles (PS4/X1) to earn back the royalties Nintendo is paying Sony/MS? Probably not, going by other games similar to those Nintendo is making.

This is hard facts backed up with sales of historically similar games to those of Nintendo. This tells us that Nintendo probably wouldn't do as well on these consoles as some would wish they did. Would the Nintendo faithful follow Nintendo to other platforms? Maybe, but we can't be certain about that. They might just as well go to the 3DS for their Nintendo fix.

Nintendo would be far better off just doing handheld games for the rest of the generation, while working on next gen console(s).

I would LOVE to hear some GOOD counter arguments to this. Come at me bro, and I'll serve you crow.

they should make ONE Mariogame for ps4/xbone. 

Why?



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generic-user-1 on 18 January 2014
DanneSandin said:
generic-user-1 said:
DanneSandin said:
Why would Nintendo go 3rd party now? It doesn't make sense. As soon as the cost for producing the Wii U comes down, the 3DS will start to make money for Nintendo, and simply not just off putting the losses of the WIi U. Sure, they won't earn as much money as they did during the DS/Wii era, but they'll do good enough to make a come back next gen.

Going third party would mean: paying royalties to the other console makers, thus losing out on money. And the PS4/X1 crowed doesn't seem to be too eager to play Nintendo games; how much did LBP sell? Or LBP Karting/Playstation All-STar? Not even the Jak and Daxter series, by everybodys favorites Naughty Dog, did well compared to Nintendo's games. And that was on the PS3 AND PS2 (which had a user base of 150+m), which arguably has a more diverse library than the X360. Therefore we have to ask ourselves, is there a big enough crowed on these consoles (PS4/X1) to earn back the royalties Nintendo is paying Sony/MS? Probably not, going by other games similar to those Nintendo is making.

This is hard facts backed up with sales of historically similar games to those of Nintendo. This tells us that Nintendo probably wouldn't do as well on these consoles as some would wish they did. Would the Nintendo faithful follow Nintendo to other platforms? Maybe, but we can't be certain about that. They might just as well go to the 3DS for their Nintendo fix.

Nintendo would be far better off just doing handheld games for the rest of the generation, while working on next gen console(s).

I would LOVE to hear some GOOD counter arguments to this. Come at me bro, and I'll serve you crow.

they should make ONE Mariogame for ps4/xbone. 

Why?

to hook the m$/sony crowd. they are young or werent coregamer in the 90th. they dont know how good nintendo games are.



DanneSandin on 18 January 2014
generic-user-1 said:

to hook the m$/sony crowd. they are young or werent coregamer in the 90th. they dont know how good nintendo games are.

I think you're better off hooking youngsters with a mobile game in this day and age. Making just ONE Mario game on the PS4/X1 would mean that the whole industry would lose faith in Nintendo's ability to make hardware, and it would confuse their costumers, since we wouldn't know if they'd abandon the Wii U altogether and start making games on PS4/X1 full time.



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DamnTastic on 18 January 2014
superchunk said:

If you want Nintendo games, just go buy a Nintendo system.

Doesn't seem to be working



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Cobretti2 on 18 January 2014
DamnTastic said:
superchunk said:

If you want Nintendo games, just go buy a Nintendo system.

Doesn't seem to be working


well that is what 3rd party developers (even deny their own daughter a wii u cause they don't like it lol)  and other console fans say when Nintendo gamers want their games on their system lol



 

 

generic-user-1 on 18 January 2014
DanneSandin said:
generic-user-1 said:

to hook the m$/sony crowd. they are young or werent coregamer in the 90th. they dont know how good nintendo games are.

I think you're better off hooking youngsters with a mobile game in this day and age. Making just ONE Mario game on the PS4/X1 would mean that the whole industry would lose faith in Nintendo's ability to make hardware, and it would confuse their costumers, since we wouldn't know if they'd abandon the Wii U altogether and start making games on PS4/X1 full time.

the youngster all know nintendo from handeldgaming. the gc/wii generation dont think good about nintendo. 

i dont think sony would allowe it if nintendo make the point clear that ist just a add game...



Azzanation on 18 January 2014
drake4 said:

They need to just go thirdparty on consoles, they just don't have the core market that sony and microsoft, they can't compete and nintendo knows that and thats why they made the wii, and it was a huge success but thats not happening again the blue ocean market has moved on, they are stuck with out a market and no third party support, chances of being succesful are nearly impossible, the console is really hurting the company, they better focusing on handhelds and making x1 and ps4 games.


You want Nintendo to go 3rd party to support Sony's Playstation who have a high chance of going bankrupt in 2 years? Damn thats a great idea.



DanneSandin on 18 January 2014
generic-user-1 said:
DanneSandin said:
generic-user-1 said:

to hook the m$/sony crowd. they are young or werent coregamer in the 90th. they dont know how good nintendo games are.

I think you're better off hooking youngsters with a mobile game in this day and age. Making just ONE Mario game on the PS4/X1 would mean that the whole industry would lose faith in Nintendo's ability to make hardware, and it would confuse their costumers, since we wouldn't know if they'd abandon the Wii U altogether and start making games on PS4/X1 full time.

the youngster all know nintendo from handeldgaming. the gc/wii generation dont think good about nintendo. 

i dont think sony would allowe it if nintendo make the point clear that ist just a add game...

Yeah, I'm sure Sony would LOVE to have just ONE Nintendo game on their console, so that Nintendo can steal away costumers from them...



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irstupid on 18 January 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
irstupid said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
irstupid said:
SubiyaCryolite said:
No, they should retain their hardware but this "overclocked last gen hardware with unique controller" nonsense has to end. At least have Half the power of the competition, have a well thought out conventional controller. For pete's sake get REAL third party support, like a of Grand Theft Auto or Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (a non sucky one please). Launch with Mario or Zelda out the gate. Do online right, make third partys have their own storefronts online if need be. Change your image, no blood needed. More Link and Samus less Mario and DK in the west at least. Unified achievements wont kill you Nintendo, damn. Start innovating. Stop playing NICE.

My favorite quotes are ones where people list things Sony and Microsoft have and say Nintendo needs to do them things and equate that with INNOVATING.

Innovating is doing somehting that other companies are not.  Adding trophies, getting 3rd parties that the other consoles have, some other online feature the others have, ect.  THAT IS NOT INNOVATING.  

Well acheviements were a REAL innovation. We have them on consoles, PCs and tablets now. Online features not traditionally associated with Consoles are innovation.  What XBox Live did for consoles, was innovation. XBox One trigger feedback == innovation. Its not like Microsoft or Sony always "had" these things. Family sharing which got trashed on X1 was an inovation. Valve is doing the EXACT same thing and everyones singing their praises. Miiverse was an innovation, one of the few things the WiiU got right, it wont fade away after one generation. Theres alot of innovation in the industry if you blinded by brand loyalty.

Not arguing over what is innovative or not, just saying adding achieventment would not INNOVATIVE for Nitnendo since other consoles already do that.  That would just be getting up to code, copying, following trends, ect.  Whatever you want to call it.

BUT it would not be innovative.  Innovation is doing something new and unique and something not seen before, not copying what others are doing.


So Nintendo should just ignore those things all together to stay "unique"?

No i'm just saying Nintendo doing them would not be called Innovation.  

Be like a store going from using cash and  check only to now allowing credit cards.  That isn't innovating, that just doing what makes sense and everyone else is doing.