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Let it be known: IMO Having only 6 v 6 won't necessarily kill the game. In fact, it could be a good design choice in context of the game. however, considering how Titanfall is considered to be one of the games that may define the 8th generation of consoles, it is a bit unimpressive.



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You can feel the next-gen right there. /s

 

But 6v6 is not bad though.



J_Allard said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Carl2291 said:
12 players aint all that bad people, especially when the maps will be populated with bots too.

Call of Duty sells 20 Million a Year on 6 vs 6 matches.

6 vs 6 works well for their map size. Now it's large maps populated with bots. and a few players. And people want to bash cod for lacking skill. This will be even worst. 

This is a good thing. A load of bots removes the emphasis idiots have with their K/D ratio.

Also, you get extremely little XP from bots. Meaning you'll still have to go out and kill human enemies to really increase your score.

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.



Mmmfishtacos said:

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.

Well you have to excuse most of us, not all of us have spent extensive time with the game as you have. So we have no idea what kind of challenge they are, or how easy it is to use the AI as bait to flank enemies.

So you're going to camp in some bushes and try to sneak up on human enemies while they "go after AI bait". Sounds awesome. Of course, Respawn has said all along the game punishes campers, so good luck with that.



J_Allard said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.

Well you have to excuse most of us, not all of us have spent extensive time with the game as you have. So we have no idea what kind of challenge they are, or how easy it is to use the AI as bait to flank enemies.

So you're going to camp in some bushes and try to sneak up on human enemies while they "go after AI bait". Sounds awesome. Of course, Respawn has said all along the game punishes campers, so good luck with that.


Who said I had to camp? AI bots will never be a challenge. This is supposed to be next gen, finding cheap ass ways to fix and unbalanced game doesn’t sound next gen to me at all. Have fun with it. I'll be sticking to true next gen shooters like destiny. 



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Train wreck said:

wait what I thought this game was pre GOTG? 6 v 6, is this 1999?

Ignoring the fact that loads of extremely popular shoots were present this gen alone that supported a max of less than 12 players, why would quality be determined by player count?

By that logic, shouldn't MAG be heralded as the greatest console shooter of all time? Instead it's terrible and sits on death row and in 3 weeks all copies of the game will be worthless.



Mmmfishtacos said:
J_Allard said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.

Well you have to excuse most of us, not all of us have spent extensive time with the game as you have. So we have no idea what kind of challenge they are, or how easy it is to use the AI as bait to flank enemies.

So you're going to camp in some bushes and try to sneak up on human enemies while they "go after AI bait". Sounds awesome. Of course, Respawn has said all along the game punishes campers, so good luck with that.


Who said I had to camp? AI bots will never be a challenge. This is supposed to be next gen, finding cheap ass ways to fix and unbalanced game doesn’t sound next gen to me at all. Have fun with it. I'll be sticking to true next gen shooters like destiny. 

Your mistake is in assuming the AI is supposed to be replacing human players. They aren't supposed to be as challenging as facing a real player. They are meant to help the flow of the matches, guiding combat around objectives and, as you said, be fodder for actual players. You are expecting them to be akin to playing Halo AI on Legendary or something, when they are actually more like the low health, mindless drones from games like League of Legends or Awesomenauts.

It's apparent you aren't really following the game, Respawn has spoken in depth about the role of the AI in the game.



At least this 6v6 will lower the expectations for Titanfall.



Mmmfishtacos said:
J_Allard said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.

Well you have to excuse most of us, not all of us have spent extensive time with the game as you have. So we have no idea what kind of challenge they are, or how easy it is to use the AI as bait to flank enemies.

So you're going to camp in some bushes and try to sneak up on human enemies while they "go after AI bait". Sounds awesome. Of course, Respawn has said all along the game punishes campers, so good luck with that.


Who said I had to camp? AI bots will never be a challenge. This is supposed to be next gen, finding cheap ass ways to fix and unbalanced game doesn’t sound next gen to me at all. Have fun with it. I'll be sticking to true next gen shooters like destiny. 

Yeah...Destiny, true next gen shooter......Okay

 

Nothing that is also getting released on X360 and PS3 is NEXT GEN.



 

Mmmfishtacos said:
J_Allard said:
Mmmfishtacos said:

Yes, now they’re just filler kills, instead of a challenge. Their point cost doesn’t matter, as it will be nothing more than a cheap kill and a point increase. So now it seems I can just wait for human players to go after AI bait and kill them from behind. Skill is thrown out the window completely. What would be better are real human players with a good objective system, where they are forced to play the objective. Do that and I’ll be impressed. Bots, lol that not even this gen let alone next.

Well you have to excuse most of us, not all of us have spent extensive time with the game as you have. So we have no idea what kind of challenge they are, or how easy it is to use the AI as bait to flank enemies.

So you're going to camp in some bushes and try to sneak up on human enemies while they "go after AI bait". Sounds awesome. Of course, Respawn has said all along the game punishes campers, so good luck with that.


Who said I had to camp? AI bots will never be a challenge. This is supposed to be next gen, finding cheap ass ways to fix and unbalanced game doesn’t sound next gen to me at all. Have fun with it. I'll be sticking to true next gen shooters like destiny. 

AI can be realy hard, but i cant see titanfall get good AI, it wouldnt be good for the targete gamers.