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I just realized that he might have been ironic, and jokingly shrugged X1 off :).



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selnor1983 said:

So what your saying is in todays society, Across over 80 million WP8 devices, 750 million Windows 8 copies and 83 million Xboxs only 48 million Xbox Live accounts exist? To get any phone games on WP8 or 7 yu have to create an Xbox Live account.

 

All I know is that the numbers they report don't represent active Gold members.

 

"It also claims in excess of 40 million Xbox Live users, although it doesn't break down how many of these are free Silver users and paying Gold subscribers."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/389080/xbox-360-life-to-date-sales-hit-759-million/



Talal said:
selnor1983 said:

So what your saying is in todays society, Across over 80 million WP8 devices, 750 million Windows 8 copies and 83 million Xboxs only 48 million Xbox Live accounts exist? To get any phone games on WP8 or 7 yu have to create an Xbox Live account.

 

All I know is that the numbers they report don't represent active Gold members.

 

"It also claims in excess of 40 million Xbox Live users, although it doesn't break down how many of these are free Silver users and paying Gold subscribers."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/389080/xbox-360-life-to-date-sales-hit-759-million/

So lets get this straight. A few gaming journos, and yourself cant work out that PSP + PS Vita + PS3 + PS4 = over 100 million accounts.

Yet you think WP7 + 8, Windows 8, 360 and Xbox One = 48 million?

Considering Xbox Live is available on around 700 million more devices than PSN.

Seriously people need to take the Xbox.com for face value. Instead of beating around the bush.

Sony claimed when PS3 was at 22.3 million that they had 25 million PSN accounts. And Xbox Live had 22 million active accounts at 32 million 360's sold.

But in the same E3 Microsofts hours spent online was more than 22x Sony's. This shows again Microsofts numbers are Gold active users.



Gabe gabe gabe....



Hynad said:
kowenicki said:
Hynad said:

I think people misunderstand what the Steam Box is. It isn't meant to be a new console. It's not supposed to canibalised the already existing Steam userbase.
It's supposwed to expand it. But offering pre-built gaming PCs. Just like Alienware and others have been doing for years. Only this time, it has a Steam seal on it.

I think people like you, who are quick to defend everything MS, are just trying to find something to complain about where there's really no big deal.

I kn ow exactly what a steambos is.. i cna buy one

now.

How many will they sell?

your last line is bullshit... and ironic for both you and Gabe (who has been on a crusade as soon as he realised what ms where up to with their marketplace for windows - "Windows 8 is bad for gaming"  how?)

 

How is it ironic for me? I defend all manufacturers when I think it's deserved. 

As for how many they'll sell, who knows. They're not even out yet. But that's not the point he was making. Every PC using Steam is a Steam box. That's what he meant. Simple as that. 


I get what Gabe was saying but the comparison isnt really the best one to make. Its probably valid on some level but for most i dont see how it applies.

If we look at the 65 million that Gabe quoted thats the total number of steam accounts of all time. Some of those users have PC's that can only run  a handful of games, some can only run games at unplayable FPS etc. Theres so much possibilities with those 65 million.

Those old PC's that need to be upgraded are (in a way) similar to Xbox 360's they can only run older games or newer games with lower quality etc. Eventually the 360 will be completely obsolete in terms of newer games, the same thing applies to older PC's. This brings us to the pros and cons of consolve vs. PC gaming. But i dont want to get into that.

A better comparison would be number of Xbox live users compared to steam users. But even that comparison isnt quite right...In any case i think people are naturally going to say that the comparison is a bit silly. The Gabe insults and all the other stuff is obviously not needed but you know how that goes around here :/

Edit: That being said i always find it a bit silly when people ask these type of questions...but if Gabe didnt want to comment on MS console sales then he should have just said that and talked about the steam platform. But by saying they need to catch up to 65 million...thats Gabes way of doing a direct comparison, and thats where i dont think it was the right thing to say. But Gabe says whatever he wants



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bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:
bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:

How many Steam Machines have Valve sold?


wow, i at least expected reasoning and logic. let me ask you this, whats Valve's main source of revenue/profits? 

Your going way off here:

An audience member asked Newell what he thought of the milestone, and if the company’s Steam Machines line-up could reach the same figures.

He replied, “Well, it’d take a while for them to catch up. I mean, we’re at 65 million,”


im not way off, you simply cant seem to grasp that steam boxes are not their to transition PC gamers to the steam box, as it is evident by your previous post. steam boxes are made to increase the user base of steam. unlike xbox one where its made to replace the 360 and transition the users from the old to the new gen console. thats why he said they stand at 65 million, while xbox one is at 3. 

Gabe comparing Steam accounts to Xbox One systems sold is still fucking stupid.



Nsanity said:
bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:
bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:

How many Steam Machines have Valve sold?


wow, i at least expected reasoning and logic. let me ask you this, whats Valve's main source of revenue/profits? 

Your going way off here:

An audience member asked Newell what he thought of the milestone, and if the company’s Steam Machines line-up could reach the same figures.

He replied, “Well, it’d take a while for them to catch up. I mean, we’re at 65 million,”


im not way off, you simply cant seem to grasp that steam boxes are not their to transition PC gamers to the steam box, as it is evident by your previous post. steam boxes are made to increase the user base of steam. unlike xbox one where its made to replace the 360 and transition the users from the old to the new gen console. thats why he said they stand at 65 million, while xbox one is at 3. 

Gabe comparing Steam accounts to Xbox One systems sold is still fucking stupid.


Indeed. Comparing two userbases together is fucking stupid...

Oh, wait. It's not.



Hynad said:
Nsanity said:
bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:
bananaking21 said:
Nsanity said:

How many Steam Machines have Valve sold?


wow, i at least expected reasoning and logic. let me ask you this, whats Valve's main source of revenue/profits? 

Your going way off here:

An audience member asked Newell what he thought of the milestone, and if the company’s Steam Machines line-up could reach the same figures.

He replied, “Well, it’d take a while for them to catch up. I mean, we’re at 65 million,”


im not way off, you simply cant seem to grasp that steam boxes are not their to transition PC gamers to the steam box, as it is evident by your previous post. steam boxes are made to increase the user base of steam. unlike xbox one where its made to replace the 360 and transition the users from the old to the new gen console. thats why he said they stand at 65 million, while xbox one is at 3. 

Gabe comparing Steam accounts to Xbox One systems sold is still fucking stupid.


Indeed. Comparing two userbase together is fucking stupid...

Oh, wait. It's not.

Gabe was comparing two completely different things, but you already know that.



Nsanity said:
Hynad said:
Nsanity said:

Gabe comparing Steam accounts to Xbox One systems sold is still fucking stupid.


Indeed. Comparing two userbase together is fucking stupid...

Oh, wait. It's not.

Gabe was comparing two completely different things, but you already know that.


He compared the Steam userbase to the XBox One userbase. Getting the point across that Steam Boxes aren't like new console generations where the userbase resets itself. But you already know that. 




selnor1983 said:

So what your saying is in todays society, Across over 80 million WP8 devices, 750 million Windows 8 copies and 83 million Xboxs only 48 million Xbox Live accounts exist? To get any phone games on WP8 or 7 yu have to create an Xbox Live account.

Windows 8 was only at 100 million in May.  I rather doubt it has added another 650m in the past 7-8 months.  It took Windows 7 26.5 months to add 530m to its first 100m, and PC sales were higher back then.