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bucky1965 on 07 January 2014
oldschoolfool said:
disolitude said:
curl-6 said:
At 28" the benefits of 4K would be negligible, unless you press your nose against it.

I respectufully disagree. As a TV yes but people sit much closer to monitors than TVs.

4K at 28 inches is 1/2 the PPI of iPad Retna display. As long as you sit 3-4 feet away form it you will see plenty of difference between that and 1080p.


that's only if you care about that sort of thing. the average consumer will just see the price tag and laugh!!!!! 

The actual target market are workstation users.



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disolitude on 07 January 2014
jonathanalis said:
In a fixed size screen, how bigger is the resolution, smaller is the perceptual diference of resolution jump.
is like number of poligons.
so, i tend to think that 1080p to 4k is a smaller than 480p to 720 or 720 to 1080p...


Get one of those 27 inch 1080p screens and compare it to this one at 28 inches when it comes out. you will absolutely see a difference and it will be massive. i for one find 27 inch 1080p unusable as a computer monitor. At thar size and 1080p... that is much worse pixel density than 720p @ 13.3 inch notebook or 480p @ 3.5 inches (iphone 1)



jonathanalis on 07 January 2014
disolitude said:
jonathanalis said:
In a fixed size screen, how bigger is the resolution, smaller is the perceptual diference of resolution jump.
is like number of poligons.
so, i tend to think that 1080p to 4k is a smaller than 480p to 720 or 720 to 1080p...


Get one of those 27 inch 1080p screens and compare it to this one at 28 inches when it comes out. you will absolutely see a difference and it will be massive. i for one find 27 inch 1080p unusable as a computer monitor. At thar size and 1080p... that is much worse pixel density than 720p @ 13.3 inch notebook or 480p @ 3.5 inches (iphone 1)


is not exacly what im saying.

i said that in a fixed screen size, the diference between 480p to 720p is more noticiable than the difference between 1080p to 4k.



JEMC on 07 January 2014

I'm really surprised by how fast the 4K panels are lowering its price. $799 for a 28" 4K monitor is great.

But that 1ms response time screams TN panel all over it :-/ (I'd love to be proven wrong, though).

In any case, I'd have to upgrade my GPU before thinking about getting one of these .



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Player2 on 07 January 2014
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
At 28" the benefits of 4K would be negligible, unless you press your nose against it.


Hahahaha.  OMG I just can't read these comments anymore with a straight face.  My laptop has a 13.3" screen, and the difference between 1080p and 720p is night and day.

If you can't tell the difference, you have bad eyes.  Period.

Because the difference between native resolution and upscaled in a LCD screen is night and day.

OT: Have they said something about input lag? Or they'll hide it under the rug like always? (chances are that it won't be great if it's IPS or MVA).



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Captain_Tom on 07 January 2014
curl-6 said:
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
At 28" the benefits of 4K would be negligible, unless you press your nose against it.


Hahahaha.  OMG I just can't read these comments anymore with a straight face.  My laptop has a 13.3" screen, and the difference between 1080p and 720p is night and day.

If you can't tell the difference, you have bad eyes.  Period.

You're sitting too close.

I can tell the difference across the room.   Sorry your eyes suck.

EDIT: I actually just tested this.  I could tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from 9 feet away on a 23" monitor (Borderlands 2).  It really isn't hard.  Then keep in mind 1080p is 2.25x bigger, and not 4x bigger like 4K is...



DyspraxicGamer on 07 January 2014

4k looks insane...I still can't believe how good games like Battlefield 4 and Metro: Last Light look at 1080p in ultra settings, to play them in 4k? it almost turns me on just the thought of it!



curl-6 on 07 January 2014
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
At 28" the benefits of 4K would be negligible, unless you press your nose against it.


Hahahaha.  OMG I just can't read these comments anymore with a straight face.  My laptop has a 13.3" screen, and the difference between 1080p and 720p is night and day.

If you can't tell the difference, you have bad eyes.  Period.

You're sitting too close.

I can tell the difference across the room.   Sorry your eyes suck.

Recently medically tested, have excellent vision. Try again.



thismeintiel on 07 January 2014
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
Captain_Tom said:
curl-6 said:
At 28" the benefits of 4K would be negligible, unless you press your nose against it.


Hahahaha.  OMG I just can't read these comments anymore with a straight face.  My laptop has a 13.3" screen, and the difference between 1080p and 720p is night and day.

If you can't tell the difference, you have bad eyes.  Period.

You're sitting too close.

I can tell the difference across the room.   Sorry your eyes suck.

EDIT: I actually just tested this.  I could tell the difference between 1080p and 720p from 9 feet away on a 23" monitor (Borderlands 2).  It really isn't hard.  Then keep in mind 1080p is 2.25x bigger, and not 4x bigger like 4K is...

Yea, I don't the people downplaying 4K. Sure, it'll be awhile before it beomes the standard, but it Will happen eventually when prices drop, Just like 1080p is becoming the standard now. And I think with the success of the PS4 and its 1080p standard, people are going to want to upgrade their TVs, too.

Though, its funny to have people boasting about the difference of 4k on a 28" monitor, while others are trying to claim you need a huge TV to see the jump from 720p to 1080po, so the difference doesn't matter.

 



 

SvennoJ on 07 January 2014
thismeintiel said:

Yea, I don't the people downplaying 4K. Sure, it'll be awhile before it beomes the standard, but it Will happen eventually when prices drop, Just like 1080p is becoming the standard now. And I think with the success of the PS4 and its 1080p standard, people are going to want to upgrade their TVs, too.

Though, its funny to have people boasting about the difference of 4k on a 28" monitor, while others are trying to claim you need a huge TV to see the jump from 720p to 1080po, so the difference doesn't matter.

 

Yeah to those claiming you need a big tv: Think you can see the difference between 1080p and 4K, 10ft from a 100" screen? Well that's the same as sitting 2.8ft away from a 28" pc monitor.
Most people sit closer to a pc monitor than that. For me it's between 1.5ft to 2.1ft (sitting forward or back), comparable to a  133" to 186" screen at 10ft.

Now for tv's, if you get a 65" tv, you need to sit at about 4.5ft to get the same effect as 2ft from a 28" monitor. So really it's rather a 4k monitor instead of a big screen tv to see the difference.