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Fusioncode on 04 January 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
wait... what does Vita have to do with Mario or Gt?

It doesn't For some reason Nintendo fans always have to bring up the Vita when talking about sales.



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Max King of the Wild on 04 January 2014
Fusioncode said:
Max King of the Wild said:
wait... what does Vita have to do with Mario or Gt?

It doesn't For some reason Nintendo fans always have to bring up the Vita when talking about sales.

i understand the defense mechanism when talking about hardware sales but the op gives enough to bash with gt6



ps3-sales! on 04 January 2014
J_Allard said:
lol just because you say "install base or not" doesn't mean it's irrelevant.


Damn. I thought nobody would catch on D:



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Viktor on 04 January 2014

The more interesting question is. Which game will sell closer to its predecessor. Right now it seems 3DWorld will be quite close while GT6 will underperform by quite a noticeable margin.



Alby_da_Wolf on 04 January 2014

Ooops, double post



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Alby_da_Wolf on 04 January 2014
Fusioncode said:
Max King of the Wild said:
wait... what does Vita have to do with Mario or Gt?

It doesn't For some reason Nintendo fans always have to bring up the Vita when talking about sales.

Vita in their posts is like that fake sign interpreter and true mad killer at Mandela's funeral or like the Spanish Inquisition, it pops up from nowhere when you least expect it.   



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Max King of the Wild on 04 January 2014
Viktor said:
The more interesting question is. Which game will sell closer to its predecessor. Right now it seems 3DWorld will be quite close while GT6 will underperform by quite a noticeable margin.


seems obvious dont you think? What do you think 3DW would sell on the Wii if it were launched? A game launching on a console a couple of years after its prime vs a game launching on a console a couple of months before its prime...



Viktor on 04 January 2014
Max King of the Wild said:
Viktor said:
The more interesting question is. Which game will sell closer to its predecessor. Right now it seems 3DWorld will be quite close while GT6 will underperform by quite a noticeable margin.


seems obvious dont you think? What do you think 3DW would sell on the Wii if it were launched? A game launching on a console a couple of years after its prime vs a game launching on a console a couple of months before its prime...


It depends. GTA5 is selling better and it is a last-gen exclusive as well. There have been some excuses like the performance of CoD or AssCreed on last gen systems but these are cross-gen titles are also on next-gen systems, while the mentioned GTA5 so far is a last-gen exclusive, GT6 is even a system exclusive to PS3 and doesn´t have the same problem of other cross-gen titles on PS3. It really depends if the game is seen as a desirable new title or mearly a rehash.



Zod95 on 04 January 2014
axumblade said:
Zod95 said:
axumblade said:
Zod95 said:
axumblade said:

Technically, there's only 200k between the two titles. Given that Galaxy had about a 150 week head start on GT5, I think GT5 still has a shot at beating it out. 

Yes but we are not talking about the future.

Trunkin's question implies that GT had always better sales than Mario 3D (so, if this new Mario manages to sell more than GT6, it will be a "winner") but that isn't true. Aside from the Game Cube / PS2 era, I think Mario 3D got always higher "skies" than GT games. I think Nintendo fans are getting nervous because of this GT6 vs Mario 3D World thread and they will take the eventually GT6's superiority in sales as a defeat. This may very well happen because WiiU is at risk of not getting a big userbase (end up like Game Cube or so) while PS3 has assured 80M potential clients for GT6 (good legs are almost guaranteed). In my opinion, there won't be a winner and a loser. The games are on different platforms and they will both sell well dispite their timid entry.

There's technically 3 generations. 

According to VGChartz, the original Gran Turismo outsold Super Mario 64 and then Gran Turismo 2 came in 3rd. For the PS2, Gran Turismo 3 and Gran Turismo 4 both outsold Super Mario Sunshine. This generation, it looks like it'll probably end up looking like Gran Turismo 5 > Super Mario Galaxy > Super Mario Galaxy 2 > Gran Turismo 6. For arguments sake, GT6 could overtake Galaxy 2 but I don't think it's necessarily guaranteed unless it's bundled/rereleased like Gran Turismo 5. As for SM3DW, it could possibly not sell as much as GT6 but at the same time, I think both titles can easily reach 6 million by the end of their runs. Neither one of them are necessarily going to be considered flops but neither one of them are going to be sales giants. 

No, according to VGChartz Mario 64 (11,89M) outsold both GT1 (10,95M) and GT2 (9,49M). In 7th gen, Mario Galaxy 1 is still ahead of GT5 and I will not count Mario Galaxy 2 as I'm not considering GT5 Prologue either. Like I said, only the 6th gen was more favourable to GT than Mario 3D.

okay. So SM3DW is reigning champion for 8th generation for now since the other has yet to be released. Cool, coolcool. 

GT6 was already released. What are you talking about?



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Jumpin on 04 January 2014
ps3-sales! said:

Just saying. People are quick to critique and cut down the sales numbers of Gran Turismo 6; saying that it's a flop or the series is done. On the other hand, everyone seems to be positive about 3D world's sales saying the legs are great and it's selling great for Wii U. 

Install base or not, the fact of the matter is Mario is MORE popular than Gran Turismo. The fact that GT6 is handily outselling it at 1.55 mil compared to 1.31 of 3D world just shows a double standard with the two games. 

Thoughts?

*DIsclaimer* try NOT to to bring up game quality into this discussion. We all know that GT6 isn't much different from previous GT and that 3D is a fanstatic game that is unlike any other main Mario installment (except the obvious 3D land on 3DS)

No, it's the other way around. There were people calling Mario 3D World a flop.

Personally, I think it's sold fairly good for a Mario spinoff title.



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