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Forums - Sales Discussion - PS4 Will Probably Outsell Wii U by Spring Globally - Michael Pachter

"There’s a ton of PS4 games coming out around March. Exclusives like Infamous: Second Son, releasing on Mar. 21, and other highly anticipated titles like Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Thief, Basement Crawl and Planetside 2 will push those who are on the fence about buying a next-generation console. The Wii U, in comparison, has few titles coming out around that time. The only one which has any potential to bring gamers to the console is Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze."

omg, resorting to saying ff 14 and other cross gen are system sellers. also, donkey kong releases a good month BEFORE those ps4 saviors and there's a little known indie title called mario kart 8 releasing late march at the earliest.

he also seems to think wii u sales will be bellow 0 for the next months.



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Zero999 said:

"There’s a ton of PS4 games coming out around March. Exclusives like Infamous: Second Son, releasing on Mar. 21, and other highly anticipated titles like Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, Thief, Basement Crawl and Planetside 2 will push those who are on the fence about buying a next-generation console. The Wii U, in comparison, has few titles coming out around that time. The only one which has any potential to bring gamers to the console is Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze."

omg, resorting to saying ff 14 and other cross gen are system sellers. also, donkey kong releases a good month BEFORE those ps4 saviors and there's a little known indie title called mario kart 8 releasing late march at the earliest.

he also seems to think wii u sales will be bellow 0 for the next months.


Ps4 isnt the Wii U. It doesn't need anything to save it. It is healthy and easily surpass the Wii U in short enough time. Just stop. Admit you were completely wrong withh Wii U able to reach 10m that you adjusted to 8mil that you missed by a huge amount anyway and you were wrong about X1 and Ps4 not going to be able to reach 2 mil



DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

“I am pretty sure the Wii U will still be ahead in March, but PS4 is going to pass it in 2014 at some point. PS4 will only be at 5-5.5 million by March, Wii U should be a hair ahead of that. Probably April or May,” said Pachter.

I thought this guy couldn't get more stupid. guess I was wrong.

Thanks for your opinion on someone elses console sales prediction Mr "10.2mil Wii Us sold by the end of 2013" and "22mil Wii Us sold by the end of 2014"

thank you for the useless thread derailment quote.



eyeofcore said:
DerNebel said:

Read what I wrote, I never said it would continue to do launch numbers, in fact I clearly stated that sales in January will be down.

Also I did back my point up, I linked a site that clearly shows that the PS4 is still mostly sold out, so I'd like to ask you again, please back up that "sharp fall/crash the PS4 is having right now" statement.

You stated that it will be down in January yet you said it will outsold Wii U in Spring which negates that statement for various logical reasons...

Nope... You back up yours because you didn't in the first place, only gave me a link that shows stocks from 2013 being sold out and not 2014 also it seems does not work properly as Amazon still has PlayStation 4's... Anyway Wii U was sold out at launch and it dropped so I don't see why it would't happen with PlayStation 4 also, February launch of PlayStation 4 in Japan will make PlayStation 4 sales look "good" in world wide sales...

Anyway why are we arguing... The race will begin once the senseless hype dies out... Like it did with Wii U.

Once again, read what I wrote. I never said that the PS4 will outsell the Wii U in Spring (which btw wouldn't negate the PS4 being down in January since obviously the Wii U will be down as well).

That site shows where the PS4 is out of stock right now, which it is on Amazon as well btw. at least for a reasonable price, this clearly contradicts your comment that the PS4 is experiencing a sharp fall/crash right now, which you still haven't backed up as it seems that your only argument is that Wii U dropped like a rock in January so the PS4 has to experience the same fate. And sure the Wii U was sold out at launch, but it wasn't still sold out 6 weeks after launch.



Max King of the Wild said:
eyeofcore said


Too bad it won't happen, I wish that was possible to make you happy yet that won't happen and you shiuld brace yourself when that doesn't happen because my heart won't be broken yet yours it will...I have three words for you; DO THE RESEARCH


What research? the research the Ps4 is outselling the Wii U while missing a major territory? The research that the Ps4 is selling as much as they can ship? Something the Wii U never did. What research? The research that Ps4 will have a more consistant software release schedule and more 3rd party supprt than the Wii U?


Failure... PlayStation 4 is outselling Wii U because it launched recently and Sony saved up enough stocks to meet the demand as much as possible and that is why they delayed PlayStation 4 launch in Japan, you would be getting the same number if PlayStation 4 was also launched in Japan on the same date as the world wide launch...

Now Sony is going to starve other regions and focus on Japan and try battle Nintendo on their turf/fortress...

So did the Wii U and it was sold out before launch also and your assumption that Wii U never did that is fallacy.

If PlayStation 4 sales drastically drop and sales of some 3rd party games fail then don't be surprised if some 3rd party developers also abandon the ship... Don't say it is impossible, it is possible... Specially if games flop on it. More 3rd party support does not mean more people buying the console, exclusives should be in the first place. First party titles... If first party titles are not good then people will have less reasons to buy the system.

People that currently buy PlayStation 4 are the hardcore Sony fans like hardcore Nintendo fans bought Wii U at launch.



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You guys realize pachter predicted that the WII and nintendo would look like the winners of last gen.. for the majority of the gen, and then they would fall off because of hardware spec/end of fad and lower priced competitors with better games and better visuals.. like the ps3 would rebound he said..



 

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I am out of here... Too many ignorant people thinking about the present time rather look a bit farther than what is right now...



eyeofcore said:
Max King of the Wild said:
eyeofcore said:
pezus said:
eyeofcore said:
Pachter... Please patch yourself, your firmware is outdated. Drone...

Anyway...

It won't happen, there is no chance of PlayStation 4 outselling Wii U in Spring and I can only see Wii U being outsold by PlayStation 4 is Q4 2014 when it gets its pace back up after this sharp fall/crash of Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have right now as holidays ended while they are now feeling game drought that will start in Q1 and ends when Q2 starts...

You can't be serious. Come on, now. You're just begging to be re-quoted in a few months.

There is no game drought in Q1...plenty of games, because, unlike on Nintendo consoles, 3rd party games actually help Sony and MS consoles sell.

And you're forgetting that PS4 is STILL supply constrained, and we're already in January. I see no reason why it would suddenly stop being supply constrained tomorrow and stay that way.

I am serious and I will be requoted in few months after people see I was correct...

There is... You are just ignoring it, look at the list at wikipedia and see all the games that you can get on 7th generation platform then those that are already released on other platforms and you have games that are also going to be on Wii U. PlayStation 4 will have a decent amount of heavy hitters... I can give you that.

I love this last part of yours like you don't grasp the concept of time... All of those "Out Of Stock's" were from before end of the year... Don't jump to conclusion and think logically, wait and see if literally ever store will be out of stock as in November/December and that those stocks are sold out very quickly...

You see no reason because you don't want to see the reason... Its simple as that...

Ps4 will outsell Wii U by the end of the spring. Better brace yourself now for the news so you dont get heart broken when it happens


Too bad it won't happen, I wish that was possible to make you happy yet that won't happen and you shiuld brace yourself when that doesn't happen because my heart won't be broken yet yours it will...I have three words for you; DO THE RESEARCH


it will happen... in fact I personally wouldn;t doubt that sony is actually over 4 million right now, and not too far from 5 million already....

they will skip passed WII u when the console released in JAPAN in feb imo...



 

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Zero999 said:
DerNebel said:
Zero999 said:

“I am pretty sure the Wii U will still be ahead in March, but PS4 is going to pass it in 2014 at some point. PS4 will only be at 5-5.5 million by March, Wii U should be a hair ahead of that. Probably April or May,” said Pachter.

I thought this guy couldn't get more stupid. guess I was wrong.

Thanks for your opinion on someone elses console sales prediction Mr "10.2mil Wii Us sold by the end of 2013" and "22mil Wii Us sold by the end of 2014"

thank you for the useless thread derailment quote.

Its completely fair that he call you out on your terrible predictions like when you said that PS4/X1 won't sell because Wii U wasn't selling.



leo-j said:
You guys realize pachter predicted that the WII and nintendo would look like the winners of last gen.. for the majority of the gen, and then they would fall off because of hardware spec/end of fad and lower priced competitors with better games and better visuals.. like the ps3 would rebound he said..


Pachter said these things when they were obvious, literally in your face.