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J_Allard said:
ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

So I can purchase digital content on PS3/4, go to 10 friends and download it onto their consoles and they can just play their hearts out? Sounds incredible, I wonder why Jack Tretton didn't market that the way he did game sharing.

On PS4 all your 10 friends can play the game not simultaneos.... in PS3 depends of the game... most can play 5 friends simultaneos but the new ones only two friends simultaneos.

It is really way different.

aka no, which is exactly what I already knew anyway.

"same DRM" doesn't have to mean it is designed the exact same way. All that really matters is the end result, which is DRM restricting you from playing.

So there is nothing wrong with the statement "xb1's future family share program is limited by drm exactly like ps4, in the end they are the same, ergo, why wait for xb1 when you already have ps4 with the same drm policies as the xb1 family share that every ms fan was in love with"?



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You may argue that if they have had the proper precautions this wouldnt have happened, but its exctly because there are precautions that have to be taken that the game isnt tournament friendly.
There is just no competition versus a physical copy of the game running on a console on offline mode. That is why Mortal kombat, Street fighter, etc. all launch their "extra characters" in physical new versions of the games (alongside digital DLC options). Its not just to get some extra money, but an investment on the life of the product in the scene.

With that said this "article" is dubious at best. I was expecting examples for the claims made, but they seem to be half assed. I remain unconvinced the PS3 and PS4 use the same systems for fighting games.



J_Allard said:

aka no, which is exactly what I already knew anyway.

"same DRM" doesn't have to mean it is designed the exact same way. All that really matters is the end result, which is DRM restricting you from playing.

aka no.

There is no DRM in PS3... you can't download in more than 5 or 2 consoles the game... there is no online check in at all... there is no DRM... it is just you can download the game to only a number fix of consoles (if you desactivate one console you can download in another).

PS4 have DRM for secondary accounts.

PS. There is no console DRM in PS3... of couse some games implemented it's own DRM.



selnor1983 said:

The organisers had a few accounts and installed on probably 10 or more consoles. Meaning one account for 4 or 5 consoles. Even if offline, the 360 or PS3 will ask for verification if it sees its been download to 4 or 5 consoles. Even offline as it doesnt register properly during 3rd and 4th install.

It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about, because on the PS3, the only two consoles it will work on are the two that are activated.  It won't ever ask you to sign on the other account to verify.  If a third, fourth, fifth, or 100th account isn't activated and you download the game, it won't let you play the game mid game and cut you off, it'll say the software can't be played on the account the moment you attempt to start it. 



theprof00 said:

So there is nothing wrong with the statement "xb1's future family share program is limited by drm exactly like ps4, in the end they are the same, ergo, why wait for xb1 when you already have ps4 with the same drm policies as the xb1 family share that every ms fan was in love with"?

Would depend on what the "future family plan" DRM was and whether or not PS4 had something to accomplish the same result. So barring that, aside from your statement being poorly written and making no sense, no I guess there is nothing wrong with it?



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ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

aka no, which is exactly what I already knew anyway.

"same DRM" doesn't have to mean it is designed the exact same way. All that really matters is the end result, which is DRM restricting you from playing.

aka no.

There is no DRM in PS3... you can't download in more than 5 or 2 consoles the game... there is no online check in at all... there is no DRM... it is just you can download the game to only a number fix of consoles (if you desactivate one console you can download in another).

PS4 have DRM for secondary accounts.

PS. There is no console DRM in PS3... of couse some games implemented it's own DRM.


That's Digital Rights Management. You can't do whatever you want with the game. DRM didn't pop up with the Xbox One at E3 lol



jlmurph2 said:

That's Digital Rights Management. You can't do whatever you want with the game. DRM didn't pop up with the Xbox One at E3 lol

Yeap... DRM always existed... the complain about Xbone at E3 was about the DRM online check-ins... PS3 didn't do that. PS4 do for secundary accounts (not primary) and 360 do it too... the difference was Xbone tried to do that with retail games not digital.



J_Allard said:
ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

So I can purchase digital content on PS3/4, go to 10 friends and download it onto their consoles and they can just play their hearts out? Sounds incredible, I wonder why Jack Tretton didn't market that the way he did game sharing.

On PS4 all your 10 friends can play the game not simultaneos.... in PS3 depends of the game... most can play 5 friends simultaneos but the new ones only two friends simultaneos.

It is really way different.

aka no, which is exactly what I already knew anyway.

"same DRM" doesn't have to mean it is designed the exact same way. All that really matters is the end result, which is DRM restricting you from playing.

Not to jump in but the op did say "exactly the same DRM" but it isn't exactly the same at all....just saying. I think that is the point most people were making...that's all.



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J_Allard said:
theprof00 said:

So there is nothing wrong with the statement "xb1's future family share program is limited by drm exactly like ps4, in the end they are the same, ergo, why wait for xb1 when you already have ps4 with the same drm policies as the xb1 family share that every ms fan was in love with"?

Would depend on what the "future family plan" DRM was and whether or not PS4 had something to accomplish the same result. So barring that, aside from your statement being poorly written and making no sense, no I guess there is nothing wrong with it?

Like the thread title, you mean?

I agree. That's what I was aiming for. That's how spin works.



ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

aka no, which is exactly what I already knew anyway.

"same DRM" doesn't have to mean it is designed the exact same way. All that really matters is the end result, which is DRM restricting you from playing.

aka no.

There is no DRM in PS3... you can't download in more than 5 or 2 consoles the game... there is no online check in at all... there is no DRM... it is just you can download the game to only a number fix of consoles (if you desactivate one console you can download in another).

PS4 have DRM for secondary accounts.

PS. There is no console DRM in PS3... of couse some games implemented it's own DRM.

I'll explain it in a simpler way.

These people had KI purchased on a few accounts (or maybe even one according to some people) and were trying to get it going on multiple consoles offline, some of which had the correct account logged in and the correct rights to the digital content, some did not. So eventually the game paused and booted them to the home screen to get them to verify the account. Basically they were trying to play the game on as many consoles as possible with as few purchases as possible, going the cheap route.

Could they have accomplished their goal on 360? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS3? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS4? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.