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Forums - Microsoft - Killer Instinct DRM? Non story. PS4, PS3 and 360 have exactly the same DRM. Move along

J_Allard on 18 December 2013
theprof00 said:
J_Allard said:
theprof00 said:

So there is nothing wrong with the statement "xb1's future family share program is limited by drm exactly like ps4, in the end they are the same, ergo, why wait for xb1 when you already have ps4 with the same drm policies as the xb1 family share that every ms fan was in love with"?

Would depend on what the "future family plan" DRM was and whether or not PS4 had something to accomplish the same result. So barring that, aside from your statement being poorly written and making no sense, no I guess there is nothing wrong with it?

Like the thread title, you mean?

I agree. That's what I was aiming for. That's how spin works.

Please do not compare the short and to the point thread title with that sentence you just produced.



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ethomaz on 18 December 2013

J_Allard said:

I'll explain it in a simpler way.

These people had KI purchased on a few accounts (or maybe even one according to some people) and were trying to get it going on multiple consoles offline, some of which had the correct account logged in and the correct rights to the digital content, some did not. So eventually the game paused and booted them to the home screen to get them to verify the account. Basically they were trying to play the game on as many consoles as possible with as few purchases as possible, going the cheap route.

Could they have accomplished their goal on 360? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS3? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS4? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

You will never be kicked from a match in PS3/PS4... PS3 you can't download/install the game... PS4 you can't run the game.



theprof00 on 18 December 2013
J_Allard said:
theprof00 said:
J_Allard said:
theprof00 said:

So there is nothing wrong with the statement "xb1's future family share program is limited by drm exactly like ps4, in the end they are the same, ergo, why wait for xb1 when you already have ps4 with the same drm policies as the xb1 family share that every ms fan was in love with"?

Would depend on what the "future family plan" DRM was and whether or not PS4 had something to accomplish the same result. So barring that, aside from your statement being poorly written and making no sense, no I guess there is nothing wrong with it?

Like the thread title, you mean?

I agree. That's what I was aiming for. That's how spin works.

Please do not compare the short and to the point thread title with that sentence you just produced.

Take a break J. If all you care to do is insult me, then you should reevaluate your strategy.



J_Allard on 18 December 2013
ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

I'll explain it in a simpler way.

These people had KI purchased on a few accounts (or maybe even one according to some people) and were trying to get it going on multiple consoles offline, some of which had the correct account logged in and the correct rights to the digital content, some did not. So eventually the game paused and booted them to the home screen to get them to verify the account. Basically they were trying to play the game on as many consoles as possible with as few purchases as possible, going the cheap route.

Could they have accomplished their goal on 360? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS3? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

Could they have accomplished it on PS4? No. DRM would have prevented it. Max would be 2 consoles.

You will never be kicked from a match in PS3/PS4... PS3 you can't download/install the game... PS4 you can't run the game.

@bolded, thanks to DRM. I kind of pointed that out already in the very post you quoted there.



J_Allard on 18 December 2013
theprof00 said:

Take a break J. If all you care to do is insult me, then you should reevaluate your strategy.

If I am insulting you, then are you not insulting selnor? Sweety, no one is insulting you. I hope that helps.



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Augluae on 18 December 2013

What a bunch of bullshit, and also lie. Reported.



ethomaz on 18 December 2013

J_Allard said:

@bolded, thanks to DRM. I kind of pointed that out already in the very post you quoted there.

Sorry but I missed the thread subject talking about "exactly the same DRM".
Because it is completelly different.



jlmurph2 on 18 December 2013
Augluae said:
What a bunch of bullshit, and also lie. Reported.


You're obviously new here, we don't report threads just because we don't agree with them. Ok? We explain why we agree or disagree.



J_Allard on 18 December 2013
ethomaz said:

J_Allard said:

@bolded, thanks to DRM. I kind of pointed that out already in the very post you quoted there.

Sorry but I missed the thread subject talking about "exactly the same DRM".
Because it is completelly different.

Yet it accomplishes the exact same thing. Seems rather petty to me to cling to such semantics but oh well, carry on clinging on.



theprof00 on 18 December 2013
J_Allard said:
theprof00 said:

Take a break J. If all you care to do is insult me, then you should reevaluate your strategy.

If I am insulting you, then are you not insulting selnor? Sweety, no one is insulting you. I hope that helps.

It has everything to do with intent.

While my calling the thread title misleading and poorly written has the intent on getting it changed or fixed, I'm not so sure the intent of your comment was the same. Your statement came off more like begrudging agreement.

Anyway, to say that the xb1 drm is the same as the ps4 or ps3 drm is ONLY correct insofar as it has management that checks who is authorized to play. However, saying that the DRMs are the same for the purpose of pointing out that the tournament situation would have happened on ANY console, would be a lie and misleading. (Have I mentioned that I don't give a f*** what happened at the tourney and that I already said it was blown out of proportion?) All I'm here to do is correct facts. Facts here are wrong. OP needs to be corrected on his gross misuse of facts. This isn't his first thread today with misrepresentative headings and information.

My point about family share was that MS has been hinting at bringing back the family share program. Now...MS has not explained exactly what that family share program is, but hopeful loyalists are theorizing that it's 10 person unlimited sharing with anyone. You had said that since the DRMs are the same, another previous statement was correct, because it technically doesn't mention policy, only DRM.

My disagreement with your statement was that I could say the DRMs are the same and equate virtually anything. In this case, I could say that ps4 uses the same digital management as the rumored xbox1 family share program. Technically it would be true, because I haven't specified which DRM, and I have not mentioned policy. This is the problem. I could possibly mislead people into thinking that the policies were the same.