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oniyide on 10 December 2013
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
DélioPT said:
Captain_Tom said:
DélioPT said:
I think the OP is being a bit hasty.
Comparing an one year old system that lacked games for most of it`s current lifespan to systems who were 5 years on the market, is a bit unfair.

About the games, i only consider the 1st and 2nd party games and not exclusives (if not, X, Bayonetta 2, Lego City, etc.)

Regarding N64: Starfox 64 is a tough call as it started on SNES. Although there`s a big difference in graphics you have to remember that the difference between SNES and N64 was like night and day.

GC: Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing started on N64 - and HM is not even a 2nd party game, so it shouldn`t count.
I would add Wind Waker to GC as it did change the Zelda formula a lot.

On Wii U you should count Super Mario 3D World. No 3D Mario on a home console is like this one.
Also, NintendoLand.


How is Mario 3D World so different.  Not being sarcastic, I am actually curious.

Honestly, you have to play it to see how different it is. There`s a reason it`s getting such good reviews.
I played every 3D Mario game on a home console and each one of them, even Sunshine, was like no other before it. The gameplay is just that different.


And thats part of the problem right there you HAVE to play to see the difference. Now how much people are even able to do that? To the layman it looks like another Mario and they will most likely just skip it. Contrast that to Titanfall and you dont have to play it to see the difference between that and say COD or BF or Bioshock or any other FPS

Is 3d World that much different from Land? im asking cause i dont know i loved 3d land myself.

Way different from 3D Land, and way better than 3D Land.

just play the damn game, and you will see why its so good.

you gave me no information at all and im not about to buy a console just to play the game on the word of someone from the internet.

Maybe Target will have a station or something


Watch a damn video do something instead of bitching about it not being different when you have not even played it.

you have 0 right to complain about it when you have not even touched the game.

First you tell me to play it (cant really do that) then tell me to watch a video that wont convey the differences anyway since you yourself said you have to play it to get the difference? Yeah makes sense

Oh and FYI the only one here that is complaining is you. I could honestly care less if i play the game now months from now or never. BUt you seem to care alot, stop getting emotional



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toot1231 on 10 December 2013
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
DélioPT said:
Captain_Tom said:
DélioPT said:
I think the OP is being a bit hasty.
Comparing an one year old system that lacked games for most of it`s current lifespan to systems who were 5 years on the market, is a bit unfair.

About the games, i only consider the 1st and 2nd party games and not exclusives (if not, X, Bayonetta 2, Lego City, etc.)

Regarding N64: Starfox 64 is a tough call as it started on SNES. Although there`s a big difference in graphics you have to remember that the difference between SNES and N64 was like night and day.

GC: Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing started on N64 - and HM is not even a 2nd party game, so it shouldn`t count.
I would add Wind Waker to GC as it did change the Zelda formula a lot.

On Wii U you should count Super Mario 3D World. No 3D Mario on a home console is like this one.
Also, NintendoLand.


How is Mario 3D World so different.  Not being sarcastic, I am actually curious.

Honestly, you have to play it to see how different it is. There`s a reason it`s getting such good reviews.
I played every 3D Mario game on a home console and each one of them, even Sunshine, was like no other before it. The gameplay is just that different.


And thats part of the problem right there you HAVE to play to see the difference. Now how much people are even able to do that? To the layman it looks like another Mario and they will most likely just skip it. Contrast that to Titanfall and you dont have to play it to see the difference between that and say COD or BF or Bioshock or any other FPS

Is 3d World that much different from Land? im asking cause i dont know i loved 3d land myself.

Way different from 3D Land, and way better than 3D Land.

just play the damn game, and you will see why its so good.

you gave me no information at all and im not about to buy a console just to play the game on the word of someone from the internet.

Maybe Target will have a station or something


Watch a damn video do something instead of bitching about it not being different when you have not even played it.

you have 0 right to complain about it when you have not even touched the game.

First you tell me to play it (cant really do that) then tell me to watch a video that wont convey the differences anyway since you yourself said you have to play it to get the difference? Yeah makes sense

Oh and FYI the only one here that is complaining is you. I could honestly care less if i play the game now months from now or never. BUt you seem to care alot, stop getting emotional

If you do not care to play the game, then stop fucking talking about it.

why do you care if you dont want to play it you make no sence. Stop worrying and go play Ghosts on you Xbone and listn to lil wayne.



http://moongypsy.bandcamp.com/ ~Thank you Stefl1504 for the amazing sig~
oniyide on 10 December 2013
FrancisNobleman said:
Captain_Tom said:
FrancisNobleman said:
So a shooter, an open world shooter and another shooter are the new innovative games of this new gen ?

Ok, I think I'm skipping it then.


What point are you trying to make?  You see "Another Open world shooter"  where many of us see a persistant and evolving war with parcour and mech elements that have never been used in an online shooter before.

It would be like calling Little Big Planet "Another Platforming Game."  If you can't see what sets it apart from other games similar to it, then you are the person with the problem.


My point is Half Life 2, Arma, Planetside 2, Far Cry 3, Crysis, you got it.

Those games you mentioned are generic formulas, with new characters. Far from new experiences.

 

Nothing wrong with that, whatever grinds your gears, but calling those games innovative experiences that you can only have now, on the mid-range powered undercover PC's called "next gen" consoles is kinda funny :)

 

You want an innovative game in the FPS genre ? Take a look at portal perhaps. Anti chamber also. Now that's innovative and never seen before.

No one said nothing of the sort, stop putting words in my mouth. So no one is innovating, fine. But for some reason people really arent buying what Ninty is selling in terms of home console, but for some reason PS360s sell more, X1 had a better launch and PS4 cant be kept on shelves. So I guess innovationation isnt that important. 

And Portal isnt a FPS as you dont shoot anything. Its a FP puzzle game. Did you even play that game?



toot1231 on 10 December 2013
oniyide said:
FrancisNobleman said:
Captain_Tom said:
FrancisNobleman said:
So a shooter, an open world shooter and another shooter are the new innovative games of this new gen ?

Ok, I think I'm skipping it then.


What point are you trying to make?  You see "Another Open world shooter"  where many of us see a persistant and evolving war with parcour and mech elements that have never been used in an online shooter before.

It would be like calling Little Big Planet "Another Platforming Game."  If you can't see what sets it apart from other games similar to it, then you are the person with the problem.


My point is Half Life 2, Arma, Planetside 2, Far Cry 3, Crysis, you got it.

Those games you mentioned are generic formulas, with new characters. Far from new experiences.

 

Nothing wrong with that, whatever grinds your gears, but calling those games innovative experiences that you can only have now, on the mid-range powered undercover PC's called "next gen" consoles is kinda funny :)

 

You want an innovative game in the FPS genre ? Take a look at portal perhaps. Anti chamber also. Now that's innovative and never seen before.

No one said nothing of the sort, stop putting words in my mouth. So no one is innovating, fine. But for some reason people really arent buying what Ninty is selling in terms of home console, but for some reason PS360s sell more, X1 had a better launch and PS4 cant be kept on shelves. So I guess innovationation isnt that important. 

And Portal isnt a FPS as you dont shoot anything. Its a FP puzzle game. Did you even play that game?


Did you? I doubt it.



http://moongypsy.bandcamp.com/ ~Thank you Stefl1504 for the amazing sig~
oniyide on 10 December 2013
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
DélioPT said:
Captain_Tom said:
DélioPT said:
I think the OP is being a bit hasty.
Comparing an one year old system that lacked games for most of it`s current lifespan to systems who were 5 years on the market, is a bit unfair.

About the games, i only consider the 1st and 2nd party games and not exclusives (if not, X, Bayonetta 2, Lego City, etc.)

Regarding N64: Starfox 64 is a tough call as it started on SNES. Although there`s a big difference in graphics you have to remember that the difference between SNES and N64 was like night and day.

GC: Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing started on N64 - and HM is not even a 2nd party game, so it shouldn`t count.
I would add Wind Waker to GC as it did change the Zelda formula a lot.

On Wii U you should count Super Mario 3D World. No 3D Mario on a home console is like this one.
Also, NintendoLand.


How is Mario 3D World so different.  Not being sarcastic, I am actually curious.

Honestly, you have to play it to see how different it is. There`s a reason it`s getting such good reviews.
I played every 3D Mario game on a home console and each one of them, even Sunshine, was like no other before it. The gameplay is just that different.


And thats part of the problem right there you HAVE to play to see the difference. Now how much people are even able to do that? To the layman it looks like another Mario and they will most likely just skip it. Contrast that to Titanfall and you dont have to play it to see the difference between that and say COD or BF or Bioshock or any other FPS

Is 3d World that much different from Land? im asking cause i dont know i loved 3d land myself.

Way different from 3D Land, and way better than 3D Land.

just play the damn game, and you will see why its so good.

you gave me no information at all and im not about to buy a console just to play the game on the word of someone from the internet.

Maybe Target will have a station or something


Watch a damn video do something instead of bitching about it not being different when you have not even played it.

you have 0 right to complain about it when you have not even touched the game.

First you tell me to play it (cant really do that) then tell me to watch a video that wont convey the differences anyway since you yourself said you have to play it to get the difference? Yeah makes sense

Oh and FYI the only one here that is complaining is you. I could honestly care less if i play the game now months from now or never. BUt you seem to care alot, stop getting emotional

If you do not care to play the game, then stop fucking talking about it.

why do you care if you dont want to play it you make no sence. Stop worrying and go play Ghosts on you Xbone and listn to lil wayne.


why you mad bro? LMAO it a video game, I'm grown if i don't play it my world won't end. What are you 12? Probably judging by your spelling



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oniyide on 10 December 2013
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
FrancisNobleman said:
Captain_Tom said:
FrancisNobleman said:
So a shooter, an open world shooter and another shooter are the new innovative games of this new gen ?

Ok, I think I'm skipping it then.


What point are you trying to make?  You see "Another Open world shooter"  where many of us see a persistant and evolving war with parcour and mech elements that have never been used in an online shooter before.

It would be like calling Little Big Planet "Another Platforming Game."  If you can't see what sets it apart from other games similar to it, then you are the person with the problem.


My point is Half Life 2, Arma, Planetside 2, Far Cry 3, Crysis, you got it.

Those games you mentioned are generic formulas, with new characters. Far from new experiences.

 

Nothing wrong with that, whatever grinds your gears, but calling those games innovative experiences that you can only have now, on the mid-range powered undercover PC's called "next gen" consoles is kinda funny :)

 

You want an innovative game in the FPS genre ? Take a look at portal perhaps. Anti chamber also. Now that's innovative and never seen before.

No one said nothing of the sort, stop putting words in my mouth. So no one is innovating, fine. But for some reason people really arent buying what Ninty is selling in terms of home console, but for some reason PS360s sell more, X1 had a better launch and PS4 cant be kept on shelves. So I guess innovationation isnt that important. 

And Portal isnt a FPS as you dont shoot anything. Its a FP puzzle game. Did you even play that game?


Did you? I doubt it.

I own portal 1 &2 its right on my trophy list. You are a sad one



snyps on 10 December 2013

Why does captain tom toast boy and random15 think Wii U can't be carried by Nintendo software...?

answer: Because they don't like Nintendo and everyone must think like them...

problem solved /thread



toot1231 on 10 December 2013
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
toot1231 said:
oniyide said:
DélioPT said:
Captain_Tom said:
DélioPT said:
I think the OP is being a bit hasty.
Comparing an one year old system that lacked games for most of it`s current lifespan to systems who were 5 years on the market, is a bit unfair.

About the games, i only consider the 1st and 2nd party games and not exclusives (if not, X, Bayonetta 2, Lego City, etc.)

Regarding N64: Starfox 64 is a tough call as it started on SNES. Although there`s a big difference in graphics you have to remember that the difference between SNES and N64 was like night and day.

GC: Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing started on N64 - and HM is not even a 2nd party game, so it shouldn`t count.
I would add Wind Waker to GC as it did change the Zelda formula a lot.

On Wii U you should count Super Mario 3D World. No 3D Mario on a home console is like this one.
Also, NintendoLand.


How is Mario 3D World so different.  Not being sarcastic, I am actually curious.

Honestly, you have to play it to see how different it is. There`s a reason it`s getting such good reviews.
I played every 3D Mario game on a home console and each one of them, even Sunshine, was like no other before it. The gameplay is just that different.


And thats part of the problem right there you HAVE to play to see the difference. Now how much people are even able to do that? To the layman it looks like another Mario and they will most likely just skip it. Contrast that to Titanfall and you dont have to play it to see the difference between that and say COD or BF or Bioshock or any other FPS

Is 3d World that much different from Land? im asking cause i dont know i loved 3d land myself.

Way different from 3D Land, and way better than 3D Land.

just play the damn game, and you will see why its so good.

you gave me no information at all and im not about to buy a console just to play the game on the word of someone from the internet.

Maybe Target will have a station or something


Watch a damn video do something instead of bitching about it not being different when you have not even played it.

you have 0 right to complain about it when you have not even touched the game.

First you tell me to play it (cant really do that) then tell me to watch a video that wont convey the differences anyway since you yourself said you have to play it to get the difference? Yeah makes sense

Oh and FYI the only one here that is complaining is you. I could honestly care less if i play the game now months from now or never. BUt you seem to care alot, stop getting emotional

If you do not care to play the game, then stop fucking talking about it.

why do you care if you dont want to play it you make no sence. Stop worrying and go play Ghosts on you Xbone and listn to lil wayne.


why you mad bro? LMAO it a video game, I'm grown if i don't play it my world won't end. What are you 12? Probably judging by your spelling

if you'd check my profile you'd know my age but, you probably dont know how to get there. Its really difficult, nearly impossible actually.



http://moongypsy.bandcamp.com/ ~Thank you Stefl1504 for the amazing sig~
bananaking21 on 10 December 2013
biglittlesps said:

Sony is relying up on more new IP's which are 12 according to Sony for first year release in 20 games along with old IP's. And more to come from their 14 studios and second paty studios with new content. Also microsoft has 8 new IP's(but some are 3rd party development).

other than evolution studios with drive club. no new Sony owned studio has announced a new IP yet. 



Podings on 10 December 2013

But the Wii was carried by Wii Sports alone. An original Nintendo first party IP.

Let's see if down the road the Wii U might get something similar.