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If this was a first attempt at a troll/sarcasm thread, it wasn't too bad... as a first go.

If I may provide a bit of critique...

1. It didn't do enough to sucker in the people that are being mocked. The first couple of paragraphs need to read as completely serious, without any sense of irony within it. It can't read like you're smirking through it.

2. It needs to be more extensive - just listing off two games in one genre and stopping at that isn't enough, it needs to actually make the counterpoint to its own sarcastic content.

3. It failed to "complete" - the post kind of petered out at the end, and went too direct (not enough snark or sarcasm). It didn't summarise itself, either.

In this context, you should have noted that, while there are a lot of Mario games, they have great variety in gameplay, from 2D and 3D platformer, through racer, party game, RPG, etc... but played out in reverse (such as "Nintendo are so lacking in game creation skills that they put just one character into a huge number of games, as though they lack the game development creativity necessary to have a a huge number of IPs in just one genre" - this is an unrefined form, of course, thought up over just a few seconds, but it gets the gist across). Following on with things like "And now they're even leaving it up to the player to create their characters in their newer franchise, the Wii series" would have helped, too.



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I'm quite shocked that a lot of people here didn't notice the (heavy use of) irony.



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Rogerioandrade said:
Man, seriously... what kind of herbs are people here in Vgchartz smoking lately ?

This is clearly a troll thread.

By the way, accusing Nintendo of franchises overusing is just dumb and silly.. Every main developer do it today: want some examples ? CoD, Fifa, GTA, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Grand Turismo, PES, Tekken, Tom Clancy, Need For Speed, Dragon Quest etc etc etc etc. Franchises that are on the market for about 15 years or even more.

Most new franchises hardly make financial sucess, with a few exceptions like The Last Of Us.


Why the Sony making more franchises then even though they know its a financial risk? Nintendo is always about the money firsta and innovating games second. They never took chances even though they have money and always went for less powerful hardware than competition(making developers to spend more time on optimizations which is time consuming or decreasing the quality of the graphics and content) so not using technology very well and staying behind.

Sony is always passionated about gaming, so they take a lot of risks in creating new IP's, funding/helping developers problems, supporting new ideas from indies, creating studios, making great hardware etc., Also sonly is the only one who provdies great value with their services PS+, giveaways(blog debate every week), cross buy/save, cloud saves etc., for gamers.

Nintendo always sells their games at full price for long time and try to earn more profit due to the demand even though its very old. Nintendo should care about gamers also more in providing value and new IP's instead of givings same old IP's with some changes in gameplay/graphics(i admit its fun)  instead of thinking about their profits first. Also they are still way behind in network capablities and they just did the recently the proper account system.



GAMING is not about spending hours to pass/waste our time just for fun,

its a Feeling/Experience about a VIRTUAL WORLD we can never be in real, and realizing some of our dreams (also creating new ones).

So, Feel Emotions, Experience Adventure/Action, Challenge Game, Solve puzzles and Have fun.

PlayStation is about all-round "New experiences" using new IP's to provide great diversity for everyone.

Xbox is always about Online and Shooting.

Nintendo is always about Fun games and milking IP's.

biglittlesps said:
Rogerioandrade said:
Man, seriously... what kind of herbs are people here in Vgchartz smoking lately ?

This is clearly a troll thread.

By the way, accusing Nintendo of franchises overusing is just dumb and silly.. Every main developer do it today: want some examples ? CoD, Fifa, GTA, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Grand Turismo, PES, Tekken, Tom Clancy, Need For Speed, Dragon Quest etc etc etc etc. Franchises that are on the market for about 15 years or even more.

Most new franchises hardly make financial sucess, with a few exceptions like The Last Of Us.


Why the Sony making more franchises then even though they know its a financial risk? Nintendo is always about the money firsta and innovating games second. They never took chances even though they have money and always went for less powerful hardware.

Sony is always passionated about gaming, so they take a lot of risks in creating new IP's, funding/helping developers problems, supporting new ideas from indies, creating studios, making great hardware etc., Also sonly is the only one who provdies great value with their services PS+, giveaways(blog debate every week), cross buy/save, cloud saves etc., for gamers. Nintendo always sells their games at full price for long time and try to earn more profit due to the demand even though its very old. Nintendo should care about gamers also more in providing value and new IP's instead of givings same old IP's with some changes in gameplay/graphics(i admit its fun)  instead of thinking about their profits first.


yeah yeah yeah....again the old "passion" talk.

Let´s make one thing clear: there´s no such thing as "passion" in a company. Videogame is all about business and making money. Nobody in this industry does what it does just for the sake of it. It´s just for economy and nothing more.  Nintendo included. All what you said are tools for Sony to get better return for their investment, which in the latest years, by the financial losses they announced, are not still paying them off.

http://gamingbolt.com/sony-financial-report-indicates-8-million-loss-in-gaming-division

And this is not the point of my post.  I´m talking about new franchises

New franchises always are a financial risk, but as we have seen lately, most of them do not pay the investment.  }A fine example is Square Enix losses with Sleeping Dogs and Tomb Raider. Take a look at the sales charts and you will see almost no new franchise, most new or spin-off stablished ones. Teraway is just 47th with 5k worldwide, Rocksmith 2014 barely touched 130k. Ryse sales (281k) an Disney´s Infinity need some further observation. 



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biglittlesps said:
Rogerioandrade said:
Man, seriously... what kind of herbs are people here in Vgchartz smoking lately ?

This is clearly a troll thread.

By the way, accusing Nintendo of franchises overusing is just dumb and silly.. Every main developer do it today: want some examples ? CoD, Fifa, GTA, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Grand Turismo, PES, Tekken, Tom Clancy, Need For Speed, Dragon Quest etc etc etc etc. Franchises that are on the market for about 15 years or even more.

Most new franchises hardly make financial sucess, with a few exceptions like The Last Of Us.


Why the Sony making more franchises then even though they know its a financial risk? Nintendo is always about the money firsta and innovating games second. They never took chances even though they have money and always went for less powerful hardware than competition(making developers to spend more time on optimizations which is time consuming or decreasing the quality of the graphics and content) so not using technology very well and staying behind.

Sony is always passionated about gaming, so they take a lot of risks in creating new IP's, funding/helping developers problems, supporting new ideas from indies, creating studios, making great hardware etc., Also sonly is the only one who provdies great value with their services PS+, giveaways(blog debate every week), cross buy/save, cloud saves etc., for gamers.

Nintendo always sells their games at full price for long time and try to earn more profit due to the demand even though its very old. Nintendo should care about gamers also more in providing value and new IP's instead of givings same old IP's with some changes in gameplay/graphics(i admit its fun)  instead of thinking about their profits first. Also they are still way behind in network capablities and they just did the recently the proper account system.

You know what this absolutely reeks of, right?



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wow I hate sarcasm threads....  just make me angry reading them.  



DarkD said:

wow I hate sarcasm threads....  just make me angry reading them.  

Yeah, I completely agree. They just make me SOOO angry as well.



Rash2049 said:
The trollforce is with this one.


Indeed.



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