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SM3DWorld sales are bad

Where's Metroid? 91 30.74%
 
Outsold by Knack 95 32.09%
 
I want Galaxy 3 49 16.55%
 
I want 64-2 38 12.84%
 
I want Sunshine 2 22 7.43%
 
Total:295
prayformojo said:
Between 1996 and 2002, we had a grand total of TWO, yes two, main Mario tiles on home consoles. Since 2007, we have had SIX games, if you include Luigi U. That's the problem. Not even Mario is impervious to overkill and it's up to Nintendo to put the brakes on and retire the little guy for awhile.


Luigi U is DLC first of all.  No one counts RDR Undead Nightmare as an entire new entry.    2nd of all the Gamecube was the lightest on Mario Content for any Nintendo console and the NES and Wii were the heaviest and which one did the best.   I think the NSMB series needs to retire for a while but Mario sells the most consoles.  No one even uses Mario in Super Smash Bros but they stick him on the front every time because people recognize it and that matters.



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Soundwave said:
Zero999 said:
Mr Khan said:
Frequency said:
Soundwave said:
 

It's still a bit much even if they are different genres. 

Brain Training and Wii Sports do not sell as much if they were Mario's Math Class and Mario Sports. Nintendo needs to understand that while slapping Mario on the box of 15 different types of games may be an easy way for a game to turn a profit, it hurts their overall brand by having so many games with the same character in them even if they are different games.

From November 2011 to November 2013 we've had ...

Mario Party 9, Paper Mario 3DS, Mario & Luigi 3DS, Luigi's Mansion, New Super Mario Bros. U, New Super Mario Bros. 2, Mario & Sonic London Olympics, Mario & Sonic Sochi Olympics, Mario Vs. DK 3DS, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 3D World, Mario Tennis 3D, Mario Kart 7, Mario Party 3DS, New Super Luigi U ... that's 15 games in a 24 month period, that means more than 1 new Mario or Luigi branded game every second month for 2 straight years basically. 

I can totally understand an exasperated parent being pissed off if they went to store to get the "new" Mario game, and ended up buying say "New Super Mario Bros. U" instead of Mario 3D World, not understanding the difference, because there's like 10 other Mario games staring back at them from the store shelf. 

And this, boys a girls, is oversaturation.

2 party games, two RPGs, a semi-horror gametype, 2 2D Platformers, 3 sports games, 2 3D Platformers, a racing game, and a DLC pack onto a 2D platformer.

I fail to see the merits of your argument beyond a purely superficial level. Customers aren't dumb.

and across 3 platforms.

I've followed Nintendo since the late 80s, I don't think they've ever released as many Mario games in 2-3 years as they have in the past few years. Even Iwata at one point said it was time to transition the 3DS away from the perception of being a "Mario machine". I even left off some games like Fortune Street which have Mario featured prominently. 

I mean if Sony pumped out Uncharted II, New Uncharted Vita, Uncharted III, Uncharted Ferrari Racing, Uncharted Basketball, Uncharted Party Games, Uncharted Of War Olympics: Drake & Kratos, Uncharted Of War Winter Olympics, Uncharted Tennis, Blake's (Drake's Brother) Haunted Mansion, Drake & Blake: RPG Brothers, Paper Drake: Uncharted, in two-three years, even if they were spread out on PS3/PS4/Vita it would probably raise some eye brows, lol. 


Save your breath dudes, nintendo fans have denied mario is milked for over 20 years now, the irony of that very fact says it all.



This is a game that every new WiiU owner will get sooner or later, i dont know from where comes this notion of flop on a platform with 4 million units, it will keep selling for much more time than any game released this season.



Rustynail said:
Shortiloe said:

3D Land was also moving 3DS, not like a BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, but it did over time and was the beginning of the wave of games, that made the 3DS successfull. Just wait till Mario Kart.

Pavolink said:
kopstudent89 said:
Didn't Wii U rise to 28k in Japan? Second consecutive week it rises. And it's not really holidays in Japan yet so that argument is invalid there. It's not moving as much as many have hoped though definitely but I can't remember when 3D Mario was last seen as a console mover.


While Galaxy 2 didn't moved any console, it have a 1.2M FW. Galaxy moved consoles the week before BF and had a 0.8M FW.

Userbase, dude.

Not this old tired argument again. How many times do you have to say wait for a, b, c, d, e, f, g? You said the same half a year ago saying wait for PIkmin, wait for Mario and Sonic olympics, wait for Wii fit, wait for Mario World, bla bla bla and now you say wait for Mario kart? Seriously? Just face it, WIi U is the next Gamecube, not the next 3DS or PS3, which had a massive amount of games over a long period of time, Wii U is not a next gen console and the third party support isn't the same as the PS3 had, if you don't have the games people wanna play, you're obviously gonna be having problems.


Half year ago, I wasn't even registered here, but thanks. lulz.



Shortiloe said:
Rustynail said:
Shortiloe said:

3D Land was also moving 3DS, not like a BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM, but it did over time and was the beginning of the wave of games, that made the 3DS successfull. Just wait till Mario Kart.

Pavolink said:
kopstudent89 said:
Didn't Wii U rise to 28k in Japan? Second consecutive week it rises. And it's not really holidays in Japan yet so that argument is invalid there. It's not moving as much as many have hoped though definitely but I can't remember when 3D Mario was last seen as a console mover.


While Galaxy 2 didn't moved any console, it have a 1.2M FW. Galaxy moved consoles the week before BF and had a 0.8M FW.

Userbase, dude.

Not this old tired argument again. How many times do you have to say wait for a, b, c, d, e, f, g? You said the same half a year ago saying wait for PIkmin, wait for Mario and Sonic olympics, wait for Wii fit, wait for Mario World, bla bla bla and now you say wait for Mario kart? Seriously? Just face it, WIi U is the next Gamecube, not the next 3DS or PS3, which had a massive amount of games over a long period of time, Wii U is not a next gen console and the third party support isn't the same as the PS3 had, if you don't have the games people wanna play, you're obviously gonna be having problems.


Half year ago, I wasn't even registered here, but thanks. lulz.

Not you in particular, but the Nintendo guys generally just made excuses and said wait for bla bla bla.



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TayllorMasi said:
Not moving units? i remember the WiiU selling muuuuch less than that...

It's still selling bad and this week was BF. No shortages for the console, also.

Maybe it will have legs and will sell good in the long run, but the game didn't boosted the console as high as expected. At least not as Nintendo expected.



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DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

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Pavolink said:

Is it bad if, as a Nintendo fan, I ask for games I'm willing to buy?

To be quite honest, your like the Nintendo fan equivalent of Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained. Lol!



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Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Pavolink said:

Is it bad if, as a Nintendo fan, I ask for games I'm willing to buy?

To be quite honest, your like the Nintendo fan equivalent of Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained. Lol!


How?



Proud to be the first cool Nintendo fan ever

Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


i really do dispize that 'its not a "main" mario, so it doesnt count' bullships.

Every other game series spinoff gets lumped together but mario? Ohhh not mario, mario is as fresh as a daisy every time, right guys, right? >_>



superhippy420 said:
prayformojo said:
Between 1996 and 2002, we had a grand total of TWO, yes two, main Mario tiles on home consoles. Since 2007, we have had SIX games, if you include Luigi U. That's the problem. Not even Mario is impervious to overkill and it's up to Nintendo to put the brakes on and retire the little guy for awhile.


Luigi U is DLC first of all.  No one counts RDR Undead Nightmare as an entire new entry.    2nd of all the Gamecube was the lightest on Mario Content for any Nintendo console and the NES and Wii were the heaviest and which one did the best.   I think the NSMB series needs to retire for a while but Mario sells the most consoles.  No one even uses Mario in Super Smash Bros but they stick him on the front every time because people recognize it and that matters.


Attributing the Wii's success to Mario is a bit of a stretch. I'd say motion controls and Wii Sports had a little more to do with that system selling well than Mario. Secondly, everything can get old...every...thing. Mario is not above milking. It's something the old Nintendo boss figured out and did so well. Between 1985 and 2002 there were 6 new main console Mario games. That's 17 YEARS...and only 6 games. Since 2006, a span of just 7 years, we've had 5 EXCLUDING Luigi.

So let me repeat. 17 years, 6 games. 7 years, 5 games. Enough said. It's just too much, and they need to put him on ice before it gets worse.