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theprof00 on 05 December 2013
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

If the one is really that tight, then why are they going for roughly only 20% more on ebay?
 Ps4 on the other hand is going for 50% more.

 

 Because the actual price is already higher on Xbox One? Or is higher percentage now an indicator for demand?!

Are you saying that customers are only ready to spend 600$ in any case?

And price is literally determined by demand.


@bold: so the demand is the same? Thanks for making this clear.

Of course there is a limit for people spending money on toys. What do you expect? Say PS4 would be $600  - would you expect people still pay 50% more just to get it? Really?

To me, both systems are worth the same on ebay for potential customers, no matter how much they cost you if you buy them regulary.

You are using basic demand formula. Percentage of price increase is also relative to demand.



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Stefl1504 on 05 December 2013
roborad said:

ms said that xbox ones are "sold out at retailers around the world," not "sold out at ALL retailers around the world."
besides, you ever think that this is just anecdotal evidence?

It's hard to belive that so many people are up in arms about ms's statement.  

Heck, even majornelson's website was updated to acknowledge that xbox one's are still in stock at some retailers, provide advice on how to find one, and states that retailers are replenished with xbox one stock on a weekly basis.  

@bold was my first thought D:



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9087 on 05 December 2013

I think everyone claims their product is sold out at first. To generate hype.



fauzman on 05 December 2013
roborad said:

ms said that xbox ones are "sold out at retailers around the world," not "sold out at ALL retailers around the world."
besides, you ever think that this is just anecdotal evidence?

It's hard to belive that so many people are up in arms about ms's statement.  

Heck, even majornelson's website was updated to acknowledge that xbox one's are still in stock at some retailers, provide advice on how to find one, and states that retailers are replenished with xbox one stock on a weekly basis.  

Yeah. I agree. MS were very careful about how they worded the statement and I think a number of guys here have misconstrued what they said. 



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walsufnir on 05 December 2013
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

If the one is really that tight, then why are they going for roughly only 20% more on ebay?
 Ps4 on the other hand is going for 50% more.

 

 Because the actual price is already higher on Xbox One? Or is higher percentage now an indicator for demand?!

Are you saying that customers are only ready to spend 600$ in any case?

And price is literally determined by demand.


@bold: so the demand is the same? Thanks for making this clear.

Of course there is a limit for people spending money on toys. What do you expect? Say PS4 would be $600  - would you expect people still pay 50% more just to get it? Really?

To me, both systems are worth the same on ebay for potential customers, no matter how much they cost you if you buy them regulary.

You are using basic demand formula. Percentage of price increase is also relative to demand.


But only in a limited way. Take a look again to the example I gave you with a more expensive PS4. And there is no "formula", you are making the percentage point way too important to strengthen your message which doesn't make it more true.



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theprof00 on 05 December 2013
fauzman said:
roborad said:

ms said that xbox ones are "sold out at retailers around the world," not "sold out at ALL retailers around the world."
besides, you ever think that this is just anecdotal evidence?

It's hard to belive that so many people are up in arms about ms's statement.  

Heck, even majornelson's website was updated to acknowledge that xbox one's are still in stock at some retailers, provide advice on how to find one, and states that retailers are replenished with xbox one stock on a weekly basis.  

Yeah. I agree. MS were very careful about how they worded the statement and I think a number of guys here have misconstrued what they said. 

I think what some people are trying to explain is "why say 'sold out at retailers around the world' instead of giving numbers".
And other people are trying to say, "numbers don't matter, because in the long term, sold out is healthy".



theprof00 on 05 December 2013
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

You are using basic demand formula. Percentage of price increase is also relative to demand.


But only in a limited way. Take a look again to the example I gave you with a more expensive PS4. And there is no "formula", you are making the percentage point way too important to strengthen your message which doesn't make it more true.

have you taken economics?

EDIT: Difference in price variation literally means that demand is higher. I would even argue that ps4 price would be higher! But the substitue item is priced at 600. This, according to price elasticity of demand, means that at 600$ the price becomes inelastic, and demand drops.



fauzman on 05 December 2013
theprof00 said:
fauzman said:
roborad said:

ms said that xbox ones are "sold out at retailers around the world," not "sold out at ALL retailers around the world."
besides, you ever think that this is just anecdotal evidence?

It's hard to belive that so many people are up in arms about ms's statement.  

Heck, even majornelson's website was updated to acknowledge that xbox one's are still in stock at some retailers, provide advice on how to find one, and states that retailers are replenished with xbox one stock on a weekly basis.  

Yeah. I agree. MS were very careful about how they worded the statement and I think a number of guys here have misconstrued what they said. 

I think what some people are trying to explain is "why say 'sold out at retailers around the world' instead of giving numbers".
And other people are trying to say, "numbers don't matter, because in the long term, sold out is healthy".

Well what do you really expect them to do. They clearly have sold less but them admitting it is the height of stupidity. So they came up with ways to announce how well they are doing while sidestepping the whole we-dont-have-the-sales-the-ps4-has question. Some people will not be fooled but others will be satisfied. I am sure other companies do this too.  



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walsufnir on 05 December 2013
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

You are using basic demand formula. Percentage of price increase is also relative to demand.


But only in a limited way. Take a look again to the example I gave you with a more expensive PS4. And there is no "formula", you are making the percentage point way too important to strengthen your message which doesn't make it more true.

have you taken economics?


Have you taken any cs class? Because I see you often in technical threads...



theprof00 on 05 December 2013
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

You are using basic demand formula. Percentage of price increase is also relative to demand.


But only in a limited way. Take a look again to the example I gave you with a more expensive PS4. And there is no "formula", you are making the percentage point way too important to strengthen your message which doesn't make it more true.

have you taken economics?


Have you taken any cs class? Because I see you often in technical threads...

 

Is this your way of apologizing?

Because frankly, although I do go into those tech threads I don't show my ass quite as well as you just did.