except every exclusive on PS3, like MGS IV, which wouldn't work on 360 unless it were redesigned from the ground up (like MGS V).

Plus, after playing God of War, and The Last of Us, I don't think the 360 could handle them without lag. 360 has it's limits, but......this has nothing to do with Kinect/BR.....

2) Not entirely accurate.
Certain types of light have different types of wavelengths.
Blue light can do 405nm.

Red Light can do 650nm.
However if you play with the optics you can significantly reduce that, if you play with the track width and the pit lengths in theory a red light based optical disc could hold more storage than Blu-ray.
The downside to that approach is that discs would need to be thicker again.

Isn’t that what you did with DonFerrari?  Just jumped in the conversation when he wasn’t talking to you? He did say that was he wasn’t talking to you and you had no problem chiming in with your little refined comment.

So first of all you’re hypocritical on that point. Second I don’t care and third good for you. You enjoy that “flexibility”. However; posting a rumor on a blog about a potential app coming in the future is just grasping at straws and shows your desperation on the matter.

What does a VLC player even have to do with Blu-ray in this thread?  Both systems are flexible and apps will come to both over the years.  Maybe you’re the one that needs to inform yourself because if your looking to post links to inform me, start with one on the lack of Twitch on X1. You seem to want to go off topic with your “apps”. So there’s one for ya.  Nonetheless, thanks for “informing” me.

I extendended that wagon to you.

I'm not really going off-topic, because we mentioned software to playback BR-discs.

And you're welcome.

Hitman Absolution looks better on teh PS3 than 360, thanks to Blu Ray..
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hitman-absolution-face-off

2) You're thinking too hard. Ultimately, the disc drive in the 360 can transfer more Mbits per second. If the PS3 had a 4x drive instead, it would have been slightly faster than the DVD in the 360.

3) I'm not arguing whether or not those games are shit, I just gave you an example of 1080p on the 360. Achieving 1080p with good graphics and smooth framerate depends on the GPU, not the disc drive.

Again, instead of accepting facts, you're choosing the moral high grounds of insulting the other when you're backed into a corner, or plain don't agree. Would it be too hard to say, "I was wrong, sorry" or "I disagree, but accept your opinion"?

I think we're done here, and I think you're pretty biased towards to 360 if you think it could play some of the exclusives which are outside the systems processing capabilities.

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Anyway the thread was about Kinect, not graphics, and Kinect is not needed, so MS is forcing it upon us. Like many people said here, BR was a decision made to increase the amount of storage on a disk, and allow games more space. This largely paid off, as many PS3 exclusives hover around 40GB, and many late life 360 games, + JRPG's required 2 or more disks.

Kinect....isn't a design choice, it's a marketing ploy. It doesn't do anything to improve gameplay, and can be easily removed (unlike BR). So why is there no Kinect free package?

Some people are very confused. Optical storage DOES NOT improve your game or graphics in any way whatsoever. It is simply a means to deliver the data. A huge game could come in 5 DVDs or in 1 blu-ray or be downloaded or whatever. The way the data is delivered is irrelevant to the game's quality. Also, running games directly from optical storage, wether its blu-ray or dvd, is pathetic. Compare to HDD/SSD, optical drives are loud, slow and more prone to fail eventually.  All games should be installed on the hard drive, in their entirety, before play. Optical drive should be inactive during gameplay. X360 offered such a feature on a system level, PS3 didn't.

Blu-ray was awesome for movie playback, and for convenience. It didn't improve the games in any way.

I didn't insult you, I just don't agree with the point you keep hammering. I don't accept your opinion.

There is no doubt in my mind developers can bring any PS3 exclusive to the 360. Could it look 100% exactly the same? Who knows?

PS3 exclusives are often ~40GB to speed up load times, not because the games have a lot of content.

As I said in my OP, the best things we saw from Bluray in the PS3 was sharper movies and less disc swaps.

I think the line between design and marketing is blurry. Obviously design choices are marketed.

MS's vision of the X1 included the Kinect. That's why there isn't a Kinect free package. Perhaps that'll change in the future to get the price down.