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Have you accepted ?

Yes =( 145 53.11%
 
No =( 41 15.02%
 
Ain't nobody got time for this 85 31.14%
 
Total:271
errorpwns on 03 December 2013

A console with great games? Heck yeah I'll accept it!



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Dark_Lord_2008 on 03 December 2013

Wii U is just like other Nintendo consoles since the N64. It has poor third party support from developers and it relies on a handful of its top first party series like Mario Bros/World, Zelda, Mario Kart and Smash Bros to sell console systems.



Metallicube on 03 December 2013
Daisuke72 said:
Metallicube said:
It's getting pretty depressing to read all the Nintendo hate here, and all the appraisal the PS4 and Xbone get with these garbage games.. I REALLY gotta think about bailing from this site, I'm finding more and more that my gaming tastes simply don't mesh with the vast majority here.


They don't and neither does your hate towards Microsoft and Sony consoles, you're no better than the Nintendo "bashers" who criticize Nintendo that's interprated as hate by their fans, who think you have to be insane to not think Nintendo has the best 1st party and the Wii U is the best console ever conceived.

 

With that said, if you're looking for someone to tell you to stay then it looks like you're sol.

I have no hate towards Sony and MS consoles, I merely stated that the current games on PS4 and Xbone look like garbage. I'm not denying that in the future they both won't have fantastic titles, they just don't at the moment. In all fairness, it took Wii U over a year to get just a handful of worthwhile games. I certainly don't think Wii U is the "best console ever conceived". In fact up until very recently when they dropped the price and brought out Mario 3D World, I have been one of its harshest critics.

And also, I have owned an Xbox 360 since 2005, and have probably played the Gears franchise more than any other this generation, and while I don't own a PS2, I have played it several times at friends' houses and have enjoyed it immensely. I think it has a really great library.. So it's a little presumptuous on your part to claim I hate Sony and MS.



ICStats on 04 December 2013
stlwtng4Dmdrxip said:

Some nintendo fanboys are getting desperate to defend the wii and wiiU. The wii was crap for the harcore gamer and the wiiU is the same so far. That's what the sales tell us, and the fact many people like me, bought the wii and played about 5 games on it and then left it to collect dust. Which by the way never happened to me with the n64 and gamecube (at least not to the point of not playing the console for a year), and the same is happening with the wiiU.

Yes I feel the same.  Wii was something worth to try - I bought into the Wii like everybody else, played about 5 games and then left it to collect dust while I played a lot more games for my 360 and PS3.  Probably used the Wii 10 times less than the other systems in the generation.

At least I like gaming, so if Wii U gets a few more killer games and/or gets cheap enough I'll buy it... but for the more casual buyer they may not feel like getting another Wii is worth it, especially for $300.



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ICStats on 04 December 2013
Metallicube said:

I have no hate towards Sony and MS consoles, I merely stated that the current games on PS4 and Xbone look like garbage. I'm not denying that in the future they both won't have fantastic titles, they just don't at the moment.

Have you even played many PS4 games?  I mean, none of the titles that are out now are going to be among the best games on the platforms ever, but generally they look gorgeous nonetheless.

You must realize that the PS4 has more 80+ rated games than the Wii U and One combined?

 

  • Wii U has only 4 games rated 80+, and one of them is HD Wind Waker, one of them is Skylanders which I couldn't give 2c for.
  • Xbox One has 3 games rated 80+.
  • PS4 has 9 games rated 80+ (and I have 7 of them)

 

If PS4 games in launch week are garbage, I don't know what you'd call Wii U games for the whole year.



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Osc89 on 04 December 2013

The title says acceptance, but it reads a lot more like denial. The Wii U has to do a lot better before it reaches Gamecube levels, never mind N64.



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mysteryman on 04 December 2013
ICStats said:
Metallicube said:

I have no hate towards Sony and MS consoles, I merely stated that the current games on PS4 and Xbone look like garbage. I'm not denying that in the future they both won't have fantastic titles, they just don't at the moment.

Have you even played many PS4 games?  I mean, none of the titles that are out now are going to be among the best games on the platforms ever, but generally they look gorgeous nonetheless.

You must realize that the PS4 has more 80+ rated games than the Wii U and One combined?

 

  • Wii U has only 4 games rated 80+, and one of them is HD Wind Waker, one of them is Skylanders which I couldn't give 2c for.
  • Xbox One has 3 games rated 80+.
  • PS4 has 9 games rated 80+ (and I have 7 of them)

 

If PS4 games in launch week are garbage, I don't know what you'd call Wii U games for the whole year.

Are you sure you looked properly? Wii U has more than PS4 and Xbone combined.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii-u/metascore?view=condensed

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps4/metascore?view=condensed

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xboxone/metascore?view=condensed



mysteryman on 04 December 2013
Kane1389 said:
mysteryman said:
Metallicube said:

I would bet PS2 at least gets very close to that, if not surpasses it.

And again, WHO THE HELL CARES? Just ignore the shovelware and play the freakin goods ones! I never ever got the logic of dissing a console because of its bad games, WHEN IT HAS PLENTY OF GOOD ONES.

The endless creative ways you "hardcore" come up with to undermine the Wii never ceases to boggle the mind..

Looks like you answered your own question.

I'm amazed at how forgetful "hardcore" gamers are at the PS2's library of shovelware. Then there's the blind spot when it comes to the plethora of kid's games that appear on all consoles. And, of course, motion controls. Sony and MS never used those.


PS2 had over 60 AAA games in its library and god knows how many 85+ games. Wii...I dont think it ever got more than 15 AAA games, but it sure as hell got 20 times more shovelware compared to PS2.

 

Comparing PS2 library with the Wii's should be considered a sin.

Thanks for basically proving Metallicube's point. Once the PS2 is brought up, it's time to compare the number of shovelware titles on each system, then discount the PS2's shovelware just because?

Shovelware is shovelware, once you have enough of it in your platform's game library, it's there. The entire point Metallicube was making is that the shovelware doesn't make the good games worse. They're still there as well, and that's all that matters. Shovelware is just a byproduct of the most popular system of the generation.

If you look at exclusives, the Wii has a great library. And since when are AAA the yardstick for quality games?



Kane1389 on 04 December 2013
mysteryman said:
Kane1389 said:
mysteryman said:
Metallicube said:

I would bet PS2 at least gets very close to that, if not surpasses it.

And again, WHO THE HELL CARES? Just ignore the shovelware and play the freakin goods ones! I never ever got the logic of dissing a console because of its bad games, WHEN IT HAS PLENTY OF GOOD ONES.

The endless creative ways you "hardcore" come up with to undermine the Wii never ceases to boggle the mind..

Looks like you answered your own question.

I'm amazed at how forgetful "hardcore" gamers are at the PS2's library of shovelware. Then there's the blind spot when it comes to the plethora of kid's games that appear on all consoles. And, of course, motion controls. Sony and MS never used those.


PS2 had over 60 AAA games in its library and god knows how many 85+ games. Wii...I dont think it ever got more than 15 AAA games, but it sure as hell got 20 times more shovelware compared to PS2.

 

Comparing PS2 library with the Wii's should be considered a sin.

Thanks for basically proving Metallicube's point. Once the PS2 is brought up, it's time to compare the number of shovelware titles on each system, then discount the PS2's shovelware just because?

Shovelware is shovelware, once you have enough of it in your platform's game library, it's there. The entire point Metallicube was making is that the shovelware doesn't make the good games worse. They're still there as well, and that's all that matters. Shovelware is just a byproduct of the most popular system of the generation.

If you look at exclusives, the Wii has a great library. And since when are AAA the yardstick for quality games?

No, because PS2 library was about 50% shovelware 50% quality whereas Wii library was 90% shovelware and 10% quality



ICStats on 04 December 2013
mysteryman said:
ICStats said:
Metallicube said:

I have no hate towards Sony and MS consoles, I merely stated that the current games on PS4 and Xbone look like garbage. I'm not denying that in the future they both won't have fantastic titles, they just don't at the moment.

Have you even played many PS4 games?  I mean, none of the titles that are out now are going to be among the best games on the platforms ever, but generally they look gorgeous nonetheless.

You must realize that the PS4 has more 80+ rated games than the Wii U and One combined?

 

  • Wii U has only 4 games rated 80+, and one of them is HD Wind Waker, one of them is Skylanders which I couldn't give 2c for.
  • Xbox One has 3 games rated 80+.
  • PS4 has 9 games rated 80+ (and I have 7 of them)

 

If PS4 games in launch week are garbage, I don't know what you'd call Wii U games for the whole year.

Are you sure you looked properly? Wii U has more than PS4 and Xbone combined.

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/wii-u/metascore?view=condensed

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/ps4/metascore?view=condensed

http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/release-date/available/xboxone/metascore?view=condensed

Yes, my bad :(.

The "Top Wii U Games" table wasn't the right thing to look at.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u



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