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KylieDog said:

Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer.

Incorrect.

Girl Fight - 34.
Tekken Revolution - 70.
Saint Seiya Brave Soldiers - 68.
Divekick is at ~65 on PS3.
A recent Guilty Gear on Vita - 69.
Jojo's Bizzarre Adventure HD - ~68.
Tekken on 3DS - 64.
Tekken Hybrid -  65.
Dragon Ball Z: Ultimate Tenkaichi - ~65.
Real Steel - ~40
Deadliest Warrior: Legends - 56
NeoGeo Battle Coliseum - 64
Battle Fantasia - 67
Dragon Ball: Raging Blast - 57
The King of Fighters XII - 63

The sad thing is Playstation All Stars only has a few points more than KI. A taste of Killer Instinct is at par with a $60 Smash Bros clone.



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Just a thought guys, but don't argue with Kylie. You all will be arguing back and forth with no end results. Though I do have to say Kylie pay attention to what the reivews have been saying rather than just the score.  If they had all the content on day one you would have seen the score jump by around 10 points.  Getting a 73 with not even half the game finished is more than an achievement. As I posted above ^ you can see that much more content is coming VERY soon.  If all that was released on day one as I mentioned the scores would have been much higher.

Not only has critics been saying it is one of the best fighters but it also shows that Double Helix and Rare Ltd can develop these type of games.  Good job to them and a big congrats :D

Though I should also say, Selnor no need to over-hype things either.  It is one reason people criticize you.  Its ok to hype things up that youre excited about, just dont over-hype them either.



selnor1983 said:
KylieDog said:

Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer.

Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
Super Street Fighter II HD Remix
Street FIghter x Tekken
Mortal Kombat vs DC
Mortal Kombat
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Soul Calibur IV
Soul Calibur V
Tekken 5
Tekken 6
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Marvel vs Capcom 3
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive 5
Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
Skullgirls
Blazblue CT
Blazblue CS
King of FIghters XIII
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown
Persona 4 Arena

Killer Instinct scoring lower than them all. A shame this revival could not do the Killer Instinct series justice.


Are you that desperate?

The reviewers say it is one of the best fighters for ages. Its down marked "currently" for content.

Its pretty unanimous that its got the best mechanics as a fighter. Some saying when it gets more content in March it will be possibly the best fighter ever.

Keep trying though Kyliedog. Forgot that yu dont actually read the reviews. Just look at the scores. ROFL. In March when they all re review it will likely meta in the 90's.

A game with 6 characters and 1 mode scores the same as Killzone Shadowfall. Why? Because its gameplay is flawless.

Bolded 1: I think his point was that to say it's "one of the best fighters in years" looking at that list over the last 5 years collectively is silly.

 

Bolded 2 and 3: I... think you're a little in the dark on the nuances of the fighting genre sir. Or at the very least just having way too much of a nostalgia trip. As a huge MK fan, and as much as I think MK9 was a huge return to form for the series, I know where to draw the line.



STRYKIE said:
selnor1983 said:
KylieDog said:

Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer.

Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
Super Street Fighter II HD Remix
Street FIghter x Tekken
Mortal Kombat vs DC
Mortal Kombat
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Soul Calibur IV
Soul Calibur V
Tekken 5
Tekken 6
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Marvel vs Capcom 3
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive 5
Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
Skullgirls
Blazblue CT
Blazblue CS
King of FIghters XIII
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown
Persona 4 Arena

Killer Instinct scoring lower than them all. A shame this revival could not do the Killer Instinct series justice.


Are you that desperate?

The reviewers say it is one of the best fighters for ages. Its down marked "currently" for content.

Its pretty unanimous that its got the best mechanics as a fighter. Some saying when it gets more content in March it will be possibly the best fighter ever.

Keep trying though Kyliedog. Forgot that yu dont actually read the reviews. Just look at the scores. ROFL. In March when they all re review it will likely meta in the 90's.

A game with 6 characters and 1 mode scores the same as Killzone Shadowfall. Why? Because its gameplay is flawless.

Bolded 1: I think his point was that to say it's "one of the best fighters in years" looking at that list over the last 5 years collectively is silly.

 

Bolded 2 and 3: I... think you're a little in the dark on the nuances of the fighting genre sir. Or at the very least just having way too much of a nostalgia trip. As a huge MK fan, and as much as I think MK9 was a huge return to form for the series, I know where to draw the line.

Im only going off reviews so far.

Cant wait for Season pass 1.



selnor1983 said:
STRYKIE said:
selnor1983 said:
KylieDog said:

Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer.

Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV
Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition
Super Street Fighter II HD Remix
Street FIghter x Tekken
Mortal Kombat vs DC
Mortal Kombat
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Soul Calibur IV
Soul Calibur V
Tekken 5
Tekken 6
Tekken Tag Tournament 2
Marvel vs Capcom 3
Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3
Dead or Alive 4
Dead or Alive 5
Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
Skullgirls
Blazblue CT
Blazblue CS
King of FIghters XIII
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown
Persona 4 Arena

Killer Instinct scoring lower than them all. A shame this revival could not do the Killer Instinct series justice.


Are you that desperate?

The reviewers say it is one of the best fighters for ages. Its down marked "currently" for content.

Its pretty unanimous that its got the best mechanics as a fighter. Some saying when it gets more content in March it will be possibly the best fighter ever.

Keep trying though Kyliedog. Forgot that yu dont actually read the reviews. Just look at the scores. ROFL. In March when they all re review it will likely meta in the 90's.

A game with 6 characters and 1 mode scores the same as Killzone Shadowfall. Why? Because its gameplay is flawless.

Bolded 1: I think his point was that to say it's "one of the best fighters in years" looking at that list over the last 5 years collectively is silly.

 

Bolded 2 and 3: I... think you're a little in the dark on the nuances of the fighting genre sir. Or at the very least just having way too much of a nostalgia trip. As a huge MK fan, and as much as I think MK9 was a huge return to form for the series, I know where to draw the line.

Im only going off reviews so far.

Cant wait for Season pass 1.

Yeah, and there's been better reviews for those fighting games listed, hell, I think Rare's other games internally have scored higher. 

 

Critical acclaim with the fighting genre will always be a crap shoot, just look at Street Fighter III, reviewers were basically complaining about the game lacking characters they don't even use. All I'm saying is, this shouldn't be taken as a vote of confidence, or an indication of some breakout revival of Rare.



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DerNebel said:
endimion said:
DerNebel said:
 

That is a completely horrible way of using review scores.

Games are generally a quite expensive form of entertainment (Killer Instinct being "free", is an exception and in its case I'd just strongly suggest anyone having the chance to try it), so just looking for someone that liked the game is the worst thing you can do when you're on the fence about buying it, the right way of doing it is looking at both sides of the medal, actually reading the reviews and then deciding if you want to pay 60 dollars for it or if it just might not be the game for you.

wait what ????? games is the cheapest way of entertainement.... with a console that cost 400-500 bucks and games that cost 60 bucks (new) I can play for half a decade to a decade during countless of hours.... movies cost 10 bucks a piece for 2 hours max of entertainement... going out cost you between 25-50 bucks a piece for 1 night out and I'm being nice I blow 60 bucks without eating easily when I go out with friends... vacation is just out of the league... maybe music can be named.... but can you seriously take music as a substitute for something way more engaging like gaming.... the main reason I went back to console gaming was the fact that I would spend way less money on entertainement than anything else....

If I do the math withthe cost of  all the game I have bought divided by the number of hours of entertainement I get it blows the cost per hour of any other enterteinement form out there....

 

looking for a positive review that suites your gaming taste is the best way to chose a game not its meta score.... so yeah one positive review in line with your taste is more important than 20 negative...

I'm sorry but you should overthink your spending habits, 60 dollar a night when going out with friends? 10 bucks a movie? Ever heard of Netflix? But even if we disregard this, gaming is not cheap, so looking for one guy that tells you what you want to hear and at the same time ignoring all possible criticism is not a good way to decide if a game is for you.

yeah I heard of netflix, comparing netflix to a movie in the thetre is like comparing a day at disneyworld with a bike ride in a park.... both can be enjoyable but come on ???? and it's not like netflix is world wide... I get it because I have a router set up with a VPN redirection.... and you still need a connection....

netflix alone cost me 50 bucks a month (if you take the internet connection and VPN sub into consideration, thankfully I use them for other thing than just netflix)

so i'll give you that netflix... which makes it pretty limited....

going out that's why I said 25-50 bucks for a regular joe because you can drink PBR all night at the local dive bar for pretty much a dollar a glass... you add a couple shots to clear the taste and you have 25...

but as soon as you decide to go out properly with actual drinkable adult beverage and be nice with your friend and take a couple rounds on your tab and don't stop until close time in my city which is 7am... 60 bucks is the bare minimum....

I follow my finance pretty closely with excel spreadsheets and other capital management apps/software.... and gaming is a cheap entertainement medium compare to most options especially if you have a familly and don't live like a cheap ass by choice.....

 

now that said I agree with you, what I said is a positive review from someone that appears to value the same things as you has more value than 20 negative ones.... so a game could be rated with a 50 average if I see a 90 from a person that points out stuff that suit my taste the other can bitch against the game for hours with their poor graphic argument, or slow downs.... and you always have the option to buy used.... which makes  gaming even more affordable and therefore you can risk it on more games... I discovered games I loved that way following a single positive review and went pick up the game when it was cheap on the xbox store or at the local gamestop....



None of those other games have B. Orchid though, so Killer Instinct wins by default. C-c-c-c-comboooooooo breaker!!!









KylieDog said:


Look what you're listing, shitty handheld ports, arena brawlers (not fighters), last gen ports, games that started on mobile phones, a pay to play game, a game intended as a joke and a game that is 1/3 a movie, 1/3 a demo.

I was listing fighters people actually care about.  Unless you think comparing Killer Instinct to Girl Fight is more suitable for it.  I know KI hasn't been aroud for a few gens, but I didn't think its percieved worth was that bad.

 

...but I'll give you KOFXII.

No, you mostly cherry picked a bunch of franchises that have been critically acclaimed. You tried misleading us into believing KI is the... "Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer."

I gave you a list of fighters and it proves you're wrong. Frankly, that list could have been longer if I wanted. For example, Samurai Shodown Sen got a 48.

If you are opposed to paying $20 for KI as is, that's fine. However, critics feel its worthy of $20.

Like I said before, this KI demo is scoring at par with Playstation All Stars. But KI's score will go up as more content is added... while Playstation All Stars will stay garbage.



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Mr Puggsly said:

No, you mostly cherry picked a bunch of franchises that have been critically acclaimed. You tried misleading us into believing KI is the... "Worst reviewed fighter in the last 8 years, maybe longer."

I gave you a list of fighters and it proves you're wrong. Frankly, that list could have been longer if I wanted. For example, Samurai Shodown Sen got a 48.

If you are opposed to paying $20 for KI as is, that's fine. However, critics feel its worthy of $20.

Like I said before, this KI demo is scoring at par with Playstation All Stars. But KI's score will go up as more content is added... while Playstation All Stars will stay garbage.

why are you comparing KI with ps all stars? don't make me bring smash bros in to the argument and make you both look silly.