I'll take game journalist and gamers (along with my demo experience) with extensive use of the controller all clamoring how well made and excellent the DS4 is over you any day. Please try to make your bias a little less obvious next time

And I'll take my own experience over one million gamers and games journalists any time. I am after all looking to make a purchase for myself that I would feel good about, not buying you or anyone else a present.

Anyway, my point was that from my epxerience it's doubtful the demo kiosks have the same version of the DualShock controller as the one that would be in the box. If you are telling me that is not right and what you see in store is what you get I can honestly say right now that I will not buy a PS4. The controller I tried felt like it was just waiting to break in half. I don't think it was a stock controller though, if it was I'd expect to hear a lot more complaining about the build quality, and as you point out, the opposite is what is actually happening. All this is what one could reasonably assume that the OP's experience might not be indicative of how the controller performs in the wild and a more valid stress test would be if he used a DualShock controller of the shelf or bought a PS4 all together.

That said, the test kiosk is there to let people decide if they want to buy the product or not. That the PS4 I was trying to play didn't work is definietly not helping in getting me hyped for the purchase. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am looking for basically any excuse to buy a second video game system. My kids are now old enough to where some of the games I will miss on the Wii U might be something they would enjoy, and I am basically a videogame collector at heart and would love the excuse to buy all three systems. However, at the price and for what is offered right now, I can't justify it. If they were $200 cheaper, or if I hadn't already bought a video game system this generation things would be different, but right now, I feel like both Microsoft and Sony are doing everything wrong in getting to my purchasing dollars. I am in the weird situation of wanting to want to get a PS4 (or Xbox One) but not being able to get there.

I was at Best buy today and was able to test out the PS4 they had on display and the analog sticks are garbage is the only way to put it.

After hearing about the PS4 sticks and how they were wearing out very easily i decided to test them out myself.  My test consisted of rubbing the analog stick with my thumb/palm for 30 seconds in a circle pattern, after this time all texture on the PS4 stick had been warn off.  I decided to test this for another 30 seconds, after this time parts of the rubber were clearly rubbing off.  I inspected the controller after the final test to make sure i was not just seeing stuff, but on closer inspection the rubber was looking very rough with flakes clearly falling off.  I feel after another 1min of stress testing the analog stick would be useless for continued gaming.

I don't see how Sony could not see this during the making of the controller or system.  Are the developers using different controllers in their studies?  Did Sony cheap out at the last minute for the analog sticks.  How could something like this happen?

And I'll take my own experience over one million gamers and games journalists any time. I am after all looking to make a purchase for myself that I would feel good about, not buying you or anyone else a present.

Anyway, my point was that from my epxerience it's doubtful the demo kiosks have the same version of the DualShock controller as the one that would be in the box. If you are telling me that is not right and what you see in store is what you get I can honestly say right now that I will not buy a PS4. The controller I tried felt like it was just waiting to break in half. I don't think it was a stock controller though, if it was I'd expect to hear a lot more complaining about the build quality, and as you point out, the opposite is what is actually happening. All this is what one could reasonably assume that the OP's experience might not be indicative of how the controller performs in the wild and a more valid stress test would be if he used a DualShock controller of the shelf or bought a PS4 all together.

That said, the test kiosk is there to let people decide if they want to buy the product or not. That the PS4 I was trying to play didn't work is definietly not helping in getting me hyped for the purchase. Contrary to what you seem to believe, I am looking for basically any excuse to buy a second video game system. My kids are now old enough to where some of the games I will miss on the Wii U might be something they would enjoy, and I am basically a videogame collector at heart and would love the excuse to buy all three systems. However, at the price and for what is offered right now, I can't justify it. If they were $200 cheaper, or if I hadn't already bought a video game system this generation things would be different, but right now, I feel like both Microsoft and Sony are doing everything wrong in getting to my purchasing dollars. I am in the weird situation of wanting to want to get a PS4 (or Xbox One) but not being able to get there.

Max King of the Wild said:
 

controller that you played is the controller youd get out of the box. it's very well made and is the best controller going into next gen

I find this hard to believe, but if it is the case that seals the deal for me. It is a complete and total non starter. I have to say I am quite surprised, but I guess it's good that I know. If what you say is the truth, and I would expect nothing less from the King of the Wild, I have to disagree that it's a very well made controller. Or rather, it might be well put together, but the materials used seemed of very poor quality.

I have not owned a Playstation brand video game console since the PS2, those controlers still work and is only flawed by some cord fraying that will eventually be their downfall, so I don't know how controller reliablity was for the DualShock 3. Any info here would be appreciated. Also, if anoyone other than Max here sees this and feel like chiming in, please do so. I have a feeling I already know what his assesment is going to be.

Again you used a demo controller, almost every freaking time that I have played on a kiosk controller wether it was PS3, 360, Wii or PS2 it never really felt any good but then again the controller inside the box that came with my 360 and PS3(bought 06 and 07 respectively) are still running fine right now. So this is either heavily used or it's probably a defect.

What I think Max meant is that the design and other things will be the same on the controlelr that comes in the box.