By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Sony - Sony: PS4 failure rate is at horrifying 0.4% (oh the horror !)

Max King of the Wild said:

Check your wall.

And my opinion of him remains completely unchanged, don't worry, I'm well aware of his type.



Around the Network
ListerOfSmeg said:

Wow someone got upset by the truth and wants to a jerk about it....

"We are on a videogames website discussing consoles, this has been the biggest launch for consoles in history, context, get some."
Pointless dribble just to throw an insult. Childish to say the least. Do you really think I don't know where I am or how I got here? LOL.

"Nobody knows what the true failure rate is, and i never claimed to know"

Really now? I guess you have some memory issues cause you just claimed this in your post

"Failure rates are actually normal"

 

So if we dont know them, how can you claim they are normal? 

 

Would love to discuss this but it would be like talking about PCs with a caveman. All you seem to be able to do is blindly defend while trying to belittle people for not being as easy to persuade as you are.

What I get from your post is you will do anything or say anything to defend them even if it defies common sense to do so. Yes Sony was only thinking of their consumers when they hid the hack. I am sure they were also thinking of consumers when they charged them 150 to fix the inferior drives they put in the PS2 as well.

I wonder what you are going to backtrack on next. You're already claiming you dont know the failure rate after proclaiming to know them.

You are saying Sony knows the failure rate, yet in your next response say things like that take weeks to figure out in relation to the hack. Which is it again? Take some time to think it over and maybe stick to one story then post it. Try not to come off as a jerk and I wont point out all your weak flaws next time. Kbye thanks for playing

Funny how you havent adressed a single point  he made, instead you throwing personal accusations, and at the same time, you have the audacity to accuse him of doing exactly what you are doing



ListerOfSmeg said:

Of course they are..... Cause Sony said it so it must be true.... Thats so sad.

How can be sad the console have low failure rate? C'mon guys.



Kane1389 said:
Mnementh said:
Kane1389 said:
Cobretti2 said:
Kane1389 said:
TheEspionage said:
Kane1389 said:


different batch, factory it come from etc..

So ithe problem wouldnt be the design of hardware, but the manufacturing procedure/location?

Yes, this can be a big problem. Factories don't work all the same, has the same know-how in the workforce and the same procedures or machines. So the quality of output can differ between factories. Usually quality increases with more experience.


Managment problem would be much easier to work out than a hardware design problem

Yes, exactly. Usually modern tech has problems in both categories. This "blue pulse of death'-problem sounds like something that can be solved by adjusted procedures in the assembly lines. Maybe it already is solved in the current production (but devices will take some time until they arrive). other problems will show up too, but all will be fine if the rate is acceptable low. Sucks for the people that get a faulty one though. Even if it is one in 100.000.



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

Max King of the Wild said:
Kane1389 said:
walsufnir said:
Kane1389 said:
Angelus said:
I'm not sure about the PS4......but this thread has around a 93.2% fail rate


Thank you for that well constructed and contributing input


shit in, shit out. We don't have any failure rates currently which could be believed.


Except the one which i just posted

Except thats not believable... because they (Mnementh and walsulfnir) would rather close their eyes and unaccept it with no evidence to support their views

I already said, that number is for one specific problem in one specific batch of devices. It doesn't say much about mid-term or long-term failure-rate. But please go on and rant that I'm delusional and don't see any facts, although I simply talk about reality. and I already said, long-term failure-rate may well be lower. I think that specific problem may be solved in assembly lines pretty fast. If that is the dominating problem in the moment, that hints the system might have a design that is mostly forgiving for little problems in assembly.



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

Around the Network

Untamoi said:

One thing you have to remember about failure rates... They can only get worse as time goes by, they never get better. You can have 0% failure rate within first day but 50% failure rate after 1 year. And pretty every electronics device have almost 100% failure rate after 20 years.

You're wrong on this. OK, already delivered devices will not get a lower failure-rate, it will only increase. But new devices might have a lower rate, as problems in production are sorted out. So we really don't know at this point, the 0.4% number is fine, a data-point, but it doesn't say much standing alone. It is used for marketing reasons on Sonys side though (calm down worried potential customers), that is completely OK. But we can discuss this number as what it is: one first data point, that will be followed by many others. And at this point we don't really know what happens, the number may go up in the long term or it might go down. We will see.



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

Runa216 said:
ethomaz said:
Failure rate are below the normal level... I don't see what the issue here.

there is no issue, there's just some people who love to make mountains out of molehills.  this is the internet, where negativity runs wild on you like Hulkamania. 

To be fair, I would also be pissed if I was happy waiting for launch day and get a faulty device. But yes, the problem is blown out of proportion. Nothing unusual though, that happens all the time for all consoles since gamers use internet intensive.



3DS-FC: 4511-1768-7903 (Mii-Name: Mnementh), Nintendo-Network-ID: Mnementh, Switch: SW-7706-3819-9381 (Mnementh)

my greatest games: 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024

10 years greatest game event!

bets: [peak year] [+], [1], [2], [3], [4]

DonFerrari said:
JazzB1987 said:
Pjams said:
Regardless, the only thing that you need pay attention to is if Amazon stops sales on PS4. My Brother works at Target, his friends work at Bestbuy. Guess how many returns they have received after over 500+ units sold?

0

My friends uncles grandmas nephews best friends fiance  is working at best buy and they sold 1000 PS4s and guess how many returned their console  OVER9000.

Btw you do know that people are not forced to return a console within the first 3 days or so? + people buy christmas presents and some PS4s are not even opened yet. + a ton of them are on ebay right now and thats why noone knows if they are broken or not.
So your 0 means absolutely nothing at all.  Time will tell not some random guy at a random shop.



back on topic.

1200 Amazon reviews and 400+ with broken consoles... that is quite worrying. It was enough for amazon to stop selling them.

Also  reported does not mean = existing  just reported. When I buy something like a console I usually know how it works that pressing some buttons for a few seconds  resets video settings etc. I can also read the manual and if its not working I just send it back and get a new one. Why call the some incompetent manufacturer service hotline with people that have less of an idea whats going on than i do?

btw
Sony always knows how to twiste or at least hide things. 
Shipped VS sold.
Footage directly captured from PS3 VS running in realtime on PS3.
(It can still be a UBERMEGAHYPERULTRA settings with 99AA downsampled from 8k and converted into the finest Bluray quality possible and then just run via the internal bluray player. It does not mean that its PS3 graphics)
And the reported stuff.
BONUS: We HAVE to make you pay for online because its to expensive for us (well then let the gamers host their own servers on their consoles and let friends join for free.  Keep the paying shit for people that care about competitions etc.)

its all damage control.


Clearly 0 means 0 even if annedoctal...

And 400 DOA on Amazon 100k sells would mean 0.4% so it's still inside Shu figures... so please go complain about a HW you won't buy elsewhere.


Either you did not read at all or you didn't understand. So read again please.



Do you have a degree in Glassballism? From Hogwards or something?  I never said I am not going to buy the PS4 but when the first batch is shit well it is SHIT. You should try to deal with stuff like this instead of ignoring it.

Btw officials LIE. Example? COD Blops2 is FullHD on WiiU, Clinton never had sex with Monica.


And let me say it again. 
NOT everyone buying something automatically uses the rating system on sites like Amazon. 
So even if Amazon sold 100k PS4s (where does that number come from?) and 400 people complained about broken ones ......thinking that this means the failure rate is 0.04%  is as smart as thinking the world will implode because it gets heavier with every new human born. (For some people understanding that humans consume plants/animals to grow is hard)

And AGAIN    REPORTED =/= broken consoles.

Conclusion:
You should really play some chess from time to time.

 

>User was moderated for this post [RH]



I remember when MS tried to say they had a sub-10% defect rate on X360s (truth was >30% of initial versions)... point is you have to wait for launch to be done with to really see anything.

My lack of faith in anyone but Nintendo is why I only buy Nintendo day one. 6 generations of home consoles and always the lowest defect rate in a gen.



superchunk said:
I remember when MS tried to say they had a sub-10% defect rate on X360s (truth was >30% of initial versions)... point is you have to wait for launch to be done with to really see anything.

My lack of faith in anyone but Nintendo is why I only buy Nintendo day one. 6 generations of home consoles and always the lowest defect rate in a gen.

Probably the smartest thing.  Both Sony and Microsoft have had atrociously bad launches and hardware in he past.  PS2 and Xbox 360 were both terrible. 



My Console Library:

PS5, Switch, XSX

PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, WiiU, Wii, GCN, N64 SNES, XBO, 360

3DS, DS, GBA, Vita, PSP, Android