pezus said:
The winner in the US will also finish last (last gen). I guess the US matter little |
In the silly meaningless 'war' you're right. In terms of actually making bank and getting mindshare, US is very important.
pezus said:
The winner in the US will also finish last (last gen). I guess the US matter little |
In the silly meaningless 'war' you're right. In terms of actually making bank and getting mindshare, US is very important.
phenom08 said:
I never said WiiU would win this gen. Why do Sony fans like yourself read so far into things? This is what i mean by your reaching. So you see PS4 getting off to a start like this but failing to outsell PS2? Its a gamer system according to many here. Why would it fail to beat atleast Wii? |
Because it will have a flatter sales curve with smaller spikes and the generation will be shorter.
You never said the Wii U would win the gen? But you have said all along that One and PS4 would flop and fail, how can two flops/failures beat your favourite? What will that make the Wii U? I suppose you could just include 3DS sales in the equation to make the situation seem less dire. Oh, wait; you already did!
You never said that the Wii U would win?
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030877
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030870
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5106375
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5158455
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5144287
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169211
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169199
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5168976
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5231419
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5547530
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5523924
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5518641
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5324429
Just for good measure, as an example of your benign nature and a dose of irony for when you accuse me of bias and/or reaching;
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5337448
And there's a bunch more all over the forums. Well, at least you're polite and largely on-topic in your discussions. And "lol" is perfectly acceptable to include in every sentence, it drives home the point to a great extent and also lends maturity and an aura of intellectual integrity.
Corner. Paint. Etc.
| phenom08 said: @DerNebel Read what it quoted instead of making shit up. |
I read what you quoted and I agree with Seece. That you're assuming that he is only basing this of the UK sales, while in the last 2 weeks both MS and Sonys console launched to much higher numbers than the Wii U in the US as well, is stretching it very much. And even if he was basing it on UK only, then it would still be a reasonable enough thing to say since the UK is the market that most resembles the biggest market in the world, the US market. Also mainland Europe has pretty much shunned the Wii U since release, while going crazy about the PS4 and also giving the X1 a good launch compared to the Wii U.
All in all Seece's post makes a pretty reasonable assumption at this point, certainly way more reasonable than your "UK is not important, Japan matters (present tense) more" claim, no reason to get rude.
| phenom08 said:
Yeah it is, im pretty sure it will fall behind launch aligned soon in NA to PS2 and Wii. Which is sad since it did have the biggest launch in history. |
Using this logic the 3DS failed because it isn't doing as well as the DS did.
Mummelmann said:
You never said the Wii U would win the gen? But you have said all along that One and PS4 would flop and fail, how can two flops/failures beat your favourite? What will that make the Wii U? I suppose you could just include 3DS sales in the equation to make the situation seem less dire. Oh, wait; you already did! You never said that the Wii U would win? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030877 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030870 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5106375 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5158455 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5144287 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169211 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169199 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5168976 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5231419 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5547530 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5523924 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5518641 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5324429 Just for good measure, as an example of your benign nature and a dose of irony for when you accuse me of bias and/or reaching; http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5337448 And there's a bunch more all over the forums. Well, at least you're polite and largely on-topic in your discussions. And "lol" is perfectly acceptable to include in every sentence, it drives home the point to a great extent and also lends maturity and an aura of intellectual integrity.
Corner. Paint. Etc. |

I got fed up by the 4th link. God knows how you got through all that.

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| RolStoppable said: No. People like to look at past launches and draw the conclusion that it is easily possible. However, the most recent PlayStation product, the Vita, featured the same price as its predecessor, the PSP. and was agreed upon to have a significantly better launch lineup. Thus people were expecting a good launch, but in reality the PSP beat the PSV roughly 4:1. Now that the PS4 is cheaper than the PS3 and also has a better launch lineup, people figure that the PS4 launch should be the same or better than the PS3 launch. Not going to happen with the current economical conditions. Besides, the PS4 is just like the PSV in that it lacks the brand strength of the PS3 and PSP. A lot of people bought Sony's seventh generation machines based on blind faith, this isn't going to repeat. Number time: The PS4 won't sell more than 120k units during its launch week and won't pass the Wii U by the end of 2013. |
Current economical conditions are vastly different from 5 years ago, Ive been ringing this bell for the longest time. Stock markets the world over are at record highs, while the recovery from 2008 has been slughish, many economicies are experiencing economic growth, London's housing marking boom is still in tact, many people have money, and the first wave will buy these disposable items at any price.
This also releaves that Sony's brand strength has always been its consoles not its handhelds and its handheld business has truly been disrupted by phones (as well as Nintendo handheld market), hopefully people will become less dismissive of this.
Time will tell how this all plays out but im sure all games on the fence have now been greenlighted (xbox and ps4), the industry has to gear up for growth and not let Nintendo's woes hold them back.
Good for Playstation. I am curious to see in the next 2 years where the sales go for PS4,Xbone, and Wii U. Last Gen I wrote the PS3 off as a dead console but they managed to comeback and tie Xbox, which I consider a win considering how poorly the launch went. The Wii U needs a killer library like the 3DS. I liked Mario 3D World, but Mario Kart and Smash Bros are the two that actually sell consoles. 3D Mario always gives Nintendo a bump but it's more of a game that has great legs and sells well for years. I am honestly shocked at how well the Xbone launch has went. Their products are trash and it just goes to show you that corporations just have to put their new shiny product out and people flock right back to it. After the 360 I will never but another Xbox, unless I plan on eventually having to buy 3 consoles and 6 controllers. I hope they crash hard.
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Mummelmann said:
You never said the Wii U would win the gen? But you have said all along that One and PS4 would flop and fail, how can two flops/failures beat your favourite? What will that make the Wii U? I suppose you could just include 3DS sales in the equation to make the situation seem less dire. Oh, wait; you already did! You never said that the Wii U would win? http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030877 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5030870 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5106375 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5158455 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5144287 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169211 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5169199 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5168976 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5231419 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5547530 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5523924 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5518641 http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5324429 Just for good measure, as an example of your benign nature and a dose of irony for when you accuse me of bias and/or reaching; http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=5337448 And there's a bunch more all over the forums. Well, at least you're polite and largely on-topic in your discussions. And "lol" is perfectly acceptable to include in every sentence, it drives home the point to a great extent and also lends maturity and an aura of intellectual integrity.
Corner. Paint. Etc. |
This guy...this fucking guy :D
