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fallen said:

disappointing again, but not unexpected at all with this one because of all the zombies.

i hope ac4 can at least redeem the x1's name a bit with 1080p on x1. it seems to be the last big title left.

 

I think at the end of the day the "problem" is the X1 is arguably maybe only 4-6 times as powerful as 360.

 

If you double the resolution from 720 to 1080, then you halve that. it's only 2-3 times as powerful at 1080p.

 

The thing is you maybe need 5X to show a generational difference. So your choice is:

 

720P with 5X gfx power of 360

 

1080P with only 2X gfx power of 360

 

The former will give people a "next gen" difference and the latter wont. So thats why we're seeing so many 720 games.

 

But I still hope X1 will get better over time and we'll see more 1080 or at least 900P.

1080p is 2,25x the pixel density... and 60fps is at least 2 times as demanding as 30 fps... so in the end for a Xbone game to run 1080p60fps of a game usually being 720p30fps on Xbox360 they should basically have the same graphics quality (2x2,25=4,5)... and since PS4 isn't that much more powerfull than Xbone (maybe 30% to 50% - if by a long stretch) we could say that when Xbone is better optimized and hit 1080p60fps (not the case because most will preffer more effects) Sony will be there with a little more effects... so Yep... we are pretty much locked on a 720p60fps~1080p30fps for xbox (varying in this limit) and 900p60fps~1080p45/60fps for PS4 when having same effects (and probably in most cases won't be that noticeable).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
fallen said:

disappointing again, but not unexpected at all with this one because of all the zombies.

i hope ac4 can at least redeem the x1's name a bit with 1080p on x1. it seems to be the last big title left.

 

I think at the end of the day the "problem" is the X1 is arguably maybe only 4-6 times as powerful as 360.

 

If you double the resolution from 720 to 1080, then you halve that. it's only 2-3 times as powerful at 1080p.

 

The thing is you maybe need 5X to show a generational difference. So your choice is:

 

720P with 5X gfx power of 360

 

1080P with only 2X gfx power of 360

 

The former will give people a "next gen" difference and the latter wont. So thats why we're seeing so many 720 games.

 

But I still hope X1 will get better over time and we'll see more 1080 or at least 900P.

1080p is 2,25x the pixel density... and 60fps is at least 2 times as demanding as 30 fps... so in the end for a Xbone game to run 1080p60fps of a game usually being 720p30fps on Xbox360 they should basically have the same graphics quality (2x2,25=4,5)... and since PS4 isn't that much more powerfull than Xbone (maybe 30% to 50% - if by a long stretch) we could say that when Xbone is better optimized and hit 1080p60fps (not the case because most will preffer more effects) Sony will be there with a little more effects... so Yep... we are pretty much locked on a 720p60fps~1080p30fps for xbox (varying in this limit) and 900p60fps~1080p45/60fps for PS4 when having same effects (and probably in most cases won't be that noticeable).

I waited the entire gen for 3rd party developers to optimise games for the cell processor on the ps3...no-one did. I'm not sure they will bother fiddling around with 32mb of ESRAM tbh.



dane007 said:
DonFerrari said:
dane007 said:
Name a game on ps4 that has that many enemises on screen, that draw distance and no loading screens holding a steady frame rate and no screen tearing?. Come back to me if you can find any. That alone is pretty impressive for a next gen console.


I can find one in PS3... in Sly Cooper Thieves in Time when you are hacking with bentley or Super Stardust HD (and it is 1080p 60fps)


I was talking aboutresolution here. its easy to achieve if the area if you get to play with its small an dlimited. I was talking about the sheer scale that D3 offers. As you know ita huge open world , with thosuands of zombies and you can transverse from area to another without having to wait for the screen to load, and its a steady 30fps and with no screen tearing. Theres no game to date that has this. Therefore i am happy with teh resoution as what you get in return is much better . I rather have a steady game with technical stuff then slightly highe r resolution and unstable frame rate

Well you keep changing target... but to have the same game on consoles that aren't even launched is kind of crazy... let the window launch pass and you will see if there is a contester... and even tough, you know that PS4 is capable of at least having the same quality on a title of the same vision right??? And by the reports we have it could be 720p60fps or 1080p30fps.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

dane007 said:
DonFerrari said:
dane007 said:
@joe the bro -- congrats for your research skill. Heres your first class PHD lol. You just fullfilled on aspect which was tonnes on enemies. Heavenly sword is not an open worl ,, just have huge raw distance and still Dead rising has tonnes of enemies. Plus i ask for a ps4 game as peopel are dissing the xbox one power. Since you haven't found one yet ,, you admitted defeat :P


To define what you want and then declare win ia easy... Show me a Xbox game with 1197 cars on it...So PS3 is next-next-next gen since Forza 5 have just  around 200-300 cars.


Haven't you heard of quality trumps quantity? I rathe rhave around 200-300 unique cars with gorgeous graphics then have few unique ones but with each unique ones,, you have hundreds of variations. One that comes to midn is teh huge amoutn of skyline variations.  Let see GT series produce 1197 complete different car an dcar models. Till tha tis done then i call it impressive since GT5 had 200 premium look while the rest of the 800ish of cars look liek upsclaed ps2 models. Lets see jpw many cars will there be for GT 7

You know that GT6 have about 500 premium cars right??? Just that is already 2,5x more than FM5... and if you go there and count different cars it will still have more than FM5... and don't forget that is a lot harder to make a Skyline drive different than other (and both close to real life parts) with little model variation (diving the feeling that they are both the right car) than making to completely different cars feels different??? Don't forget the developer by just driving on GT on his first real race on Nurburgring came 2nd.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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fps_d0minat0r said:
DonFerrari said:
fallen said:

disappointing again, but not unexpected at all with this one because of all the zombies.

i hope ac4 can at least redeem the x1's name a bit with 1080p on x1. it seems to be the last big title left.

 

I think at the end of the day the "problem" is the X1 is arguably maybe only 4-6 times as powerful as 360.

 

If you double the resolution from 720 to 1080, then you halve that. it's only 2-3 times as powerful at 1080p.

 

The thing is you maybe need 5X to show a generational difference. So your choice is:

 

720P with 5X gfx power of 360

 

1080P with only 2X gfx power of 360

 

The former will give people a "next gen" difference and the latter wont. So thats why we're seeing so many 720 games.

 

But I still hope X1 will get better over time and we'll see more 1080 or at least 900P.

1080p is 2,25x the pixel density... and 60fps is at least 2 times as demanding as 30 fps... so in the end for a Xbone game to run 1080p60fps of a game usually being 720p30fps on Xbox360 they should basically have the same graphics quality (2x2,25=4,5)... and since PS4 isn't that much more powerfull than Xbone (maybe 30% to 50% - if by a long stretch) we could say that when Xbone is better optimized and hit 1080p60fps (not the case because most will preffer more effects) Sony will be there with a little more effects... so Yep... we are pretty much locked on a 720p60fps~1080p30fps for xbox (varying in this limit) and 900p60fps~1080p45/60fps for PS4 when having same effects (and probably in most cases won't be that noticeable).

I waited the entire gen for 3rd party developers to optimise games for the cell processor on the ps3...no-one did. I'm not sure they will bother fiddling around with 32mb of ESRAM tbh.

I have to agree with you, that when given the chance humans will try the easiest path (less resistance theory)... Lets hope it'll be easier to get better at RAM than at Cell... even tough it's realistic expectation what I put (at least I think)... and as many said, most won't see a difference even if by some mistake a dev put a 720p30fps on Xbone and a 1080p60fps on PS4 (if they aren't side by side on equally good tvs).



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."