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dharh on 07 November 2013
MikeRox said:
dharh said:

This IMO is more correct view. The games themselves are the Ferarri or the Fiesta or whatever metaphor you want to use that satisfies your comparison of premium vs cheap.

When I look at a certain consoles to see whether it is worth a buy I look at the games it offers and can offer. The experience I will have with the system, the types of games, how many of those games there are, how good they are, how good they _look_ (even though that is an umpopular opinion around here sometimes), etc.

Even so, based on past records ill even buy a consoles before it has proven itself, case in point the Wii and the DS, which in hindsight were rather poor purchases for me because they were utterly lacking in fun most of the time because of my tastes. Contrast that to the PS3 which I bought, if memory serves, 1-2 years later than the Wii, and within the first few months of owning that system, because I had waited to purchase it after knowing full well the games it already had, I was able to enjoy it far more than the entire time I had already owned my Wii.

Contrast that with the current gens both console and handheld. Ill go with the handheld side, since its the exaple in the post I've quoted. I'm one of those 6 million who prefer the PSV. Simply because the 3DS does not offer what I want. I wanted the single screen, dual analog, modern screen, handheld with both past and present RPGs. I simply cannot get that experience with the 3DS. It matters little that the PSV is the more expensive technically more robust device. It matters that it offers exactly what I want, which are Ferarri games.

Point missed entirely.

I wasn't calling Vita Ferrari. I was using that to demonstrate that sales do not directly correlate to quality.

Also software is irrelevant rating the design/quality of hardware. You don't need to go into the future re the TV thing. Look at 4K. You instant argument is a 1080p set is better because there is more 1080p content. However content does not impact the quality of the product merely the ability to enjoy it.

Of course for sales a product also needs the software to show it off or more in the 3DS's case the bigger  branded software to drive the sales. But better games don't make a lower resolution screen and inferior hardware better designed. Just more mass market.

Its great that you love your 3DS but owning both platforms its clear to me which is the better actual system and if every 3DS game came out on Vita pretty much every 3DS title would be redundant.

So no, the software is irrelevant when judging the physical quality of the consoles. Just to provide weight to my view point because were clearly using different parameters. The GCN and Xbox were better products than the PS2 IMO. It was other factors which led to the PS2's success. Just as with 3DS.

I don't own a 3DS just fyi, I don't enjoy it. 

But I disagree with most of your other points. If you want to judge physical quality of the console fine, but im not sure how having a dual screen or 3D impacts _quality_, and it is those two factors that turn me off from the 3DS more than the fact that the resolution of the thing is far inferrior to a PSV.

Thats about it. I still think the PSV provides higher quality games, but much less of them. The 3DS provides a much wider variety of quality of games, and a much larger quantity of them, with specific functionality that apparently many people, except me, want.



A warrior keeps death on the mind from the moment of their first breath to the moment of their last.
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Rogerioandrade on 07 November 2013

You guys miss entirely the point of what quality really means..

Quality is not about having more power or having more features

Quality is about how a product can match the consumer expectations and feelings, for a price that he/she considers fair for what he´s getting.

In this sense, a good game library is mandatory in order to make a handheld device a quality device, because consumers will interact with the machine through its software.

Vita can be more powerful and it sure has its audience, but it doesn´t have all the qualities most (I repeat, MOST) consumers want. For some people, it´s still just too expensive, for others, the library is not interesting.

Tech-wise, Vita can be a better device, but marketing-wise, 3DS matches better what the consumer wants and, thus, it´s a better product.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 07 November 2013

Yeah, I tend not to mind resolution when it comes to the 3DS. Its a handheld after all.



orniletter on 07 November 2013

Can´t we agree that.....when it comes to video games, it is best to have every Sony and Nintendo platform ?

They compliment each other so well...



brendude13 on 07 November 2013
Chandler said:
brendude13 said:
Chandler said:


I bet sales numbers are irrelevant too.




Compelling argument.

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. My comment didn't go completely over your head did it?



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brendude13 on 07 November 2013
Kaizar said:
@dharh

Modern screen, the PS Vital has 540p resolution screen while the 3DS has a Glasses-free 3D screen which OS only in 4K HD TVs.

Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc.

And Netflix & Hulu Plus streams 3D movies, Pacific Rim anyone. And full digital 3D movies to download are coming to the eShop. Don't forget the 3D camera to record 3D videos and take 3D photos with way more post processing of the images then the Vital can do, because they both got underclock CPUs, but clearly one is undercloc lower the the other as shown in post processing of their cameras images. And Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate does more then 130 million polygons in Vertex Performence on both Handhelds (both 3DS & Vital seperate versions). And there's this:

240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up.

Killer.



dharh on 07 November 2013
brendude13 said:
Kaizar said:
@dharh

Modern screen, the PS Vital has 540p resolution screen while the 3DS has a Glasses-free 3D screen which OS only in 4K HD TVs.

Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc.

And Netflix & Hulu Plus streams 3D movies, Pacific Rim anyone. And full digital 3D movies to download are coming to the eShop. Don't forget the 3D camera to record 3D videos and take 3D photos with way more post processing of the images then the Vital can do, because they both got underclock CPUs, but clearly one is undercloc lower the the other as shown in post processing of their cameras images. And Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate does more then 130 million polygons in Vertex Performence on both Handhelds (both 3DS & Vital seperate versions). And there's this:

240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up.

Killer.


No its a specious argument. He's throwing his opinion around like its fact. Almost everything he said is pure subjective opinion that is only as valid as my own opinion that 3D is not all that great.



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fps_d0minat0r on 07 November 2013

doesnt matter, cross gen development has screwed both systems when it comes to games. the developers are too stretched to bother with the vita or 3ds (or the wiiU), so 6m or 36m, its useless.

in terms of priority it seems to be going ps360 > ps4/XB1 > PC > wiiU > handheld

if youre not into japanese games, theres really not much quality on the handhelds.



brendude13 on 07 November 2013
dharh said:
brendude13 said:
Kaizar said:
@dharh

Modern screen, the PS Vital has 540p resolution screen while the 3DS has a Glasses-free 3D screen which OS only in 4K HD TVs.

Best RPGs past & present, the 3DS has Tales of the Abyss 3D & Project X Zone & Code of Princes & Paper Mario Sticker Star & King of Pirates (trilogy) & Kingdom Hearts 3D & Dillon's Rolling Western 1 and 2 & Bravely Default & Beyond the Labyrinth & etc.

And Netflix & Hulu Plus streams 3D movies, Pacific Rim anyone. And full digital 3D movies to download are coming to the eShop. Don't forget the 3D camera to record 3D videos and take 3D photos with way more post processing of the images then the Vital can do, because they both got underclock CPUs, but clearly one is undercloc lower the the other as shown in post processing of their cameras images. And Batman Arkham Origins Blackgate does more then 130 million polygons in Vertex Performence on both Handhelds (both 3DS & Vital seperate versions). And there's this:

240p 3D > 4K HD 2D > 1080p 2D > 720p 2D > 540p 2D
Just had to clear those things up.

Killer.


No its a specious argument. He's throwing his opinion around like its fact. Almost everything he said is pure subjective opinion that is only as valid as my own opinion that 3D is not all that great.

I'd say almost everything he said is factually incorrect.



Dr.EisDrachenJaeger on 07 November 2013

No the majority of what he said was correct, but like a deranged evangelist.

Yes even the parts regarding the video stuff