dharh said:
irstupid said:
| MikeRox said:
Well, unless you subscribe to the whole a Ford Fiesta is clearly a better vehicle than a Ferarri Enzo or a Bentley because it's sold more, yes. I guess Economy Class on a flight is also better than Business for First because they sell more Economy tickets...
Sales don't change anything about the hardware/design. Apart from when successive revisions are gimped to cut costs and you end up with the abomination that is the Wii Mini and the revised Vita model :(
The best TVs you can buy certainly come nowhere near close to matching the sales of the best selling TVs.
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Bad analogy when talking consoles.
Too many people think consoles themselves are the Fiesta or Ferarri. That is not how it is.
IT'S THE GAMES.
Lets use your TV example. Lets say I have a time machine and go 100 years into the future and bring back the top of the line tv from that time period. Hardware wise it woudl run circles around any tv in todays world, BUT it probably can't watch a single channel or play any games or watch a single movie. So what good is it? It's basically just a fancy decoration on the wall. Or whatever tv's are like in future. But I doubt you could just plug your PS4 into it, most likely uncompattable cables, same for caple tv or whatever.
That's how you should look at a gaming console. Doesn't matter how technically amazing a console mafy be, if it doesn't do what it's meant to do "PLAY GAMES" then its just an expensive decoration.
Now the Vita has 6 million consumers, so obviously some people think its more than a decoration. But at the moment the general consensus, which sales show, is that the 3DS is the BETTER console.
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This IMO is more correct view. The games themselves are the Ferarri or the Fiesta or whatever metaphor you want to use that satisfies your comparison of premium vs cheap.
When I look at a certain consoles to see whether it is worth a buy I look at the games it offers and can offer. The experience I will have with the system, the types of games, how many of those games there are, how good they are, how good they _look_ (even though that is an umpopular opinion around here sometimes), etc.
Even so, based on past records ill even buy a consoles before it has proven itself, case in point the Wii and the DS, which in hindsight were rather poor purchases for me because they were utterly lacking in fun most of the time because of my tastes. Contrast that to the PS3 which I bought, if memory serves, 1-2 years later than the Wii, and within the first few months of owning that system, because I had waited to purchase it after knowing full well the games it already had, I was able to enjoy it far more than the entire time I had already owned my Wii.
Contrast that with the current gens both console and handheld. Ill go with the handheld side, since its the exaple in the post I've quoted. I'm one of those 6 million who prefer the PSV. Simply because the 3DS does not offer what I want. I wanted the single screen, dual analog, modern screen, handheld with both past and present RPGs. I simply cannot get that experience with the 3DS. It matters little that the PSV is the more expensive technically more robust device. It matters that it offers exactly what I want, which are Ferarri games.
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Point missed entirely.
I wasn't calling Vita Ferrari. I was using that to demonstrate that sales do not directly correlate to quality.
Also software is irrelevant rating the design/quality of hardware. You don't need to go into the future re the TV thing. Look at 4K. You instant argument is a 1080p set is better because there is more 1080p content. However content does not impact the quality of the product merely the ability to enjoy it.
Of course for sales a product also needs the software to show it off or more in the 3DS's case the bigger branded software to drive the sales. But better games don't make a lower resolution screen and inferior hardware better designed. Just more mass market.
Its great that you love your 3DS but owning both platforms its clear to me which is the better actual system and if every 3DS game came out on Vita pretty much every 3DS title would be redundant.
So no, the software is irrelevant when judging the physical quality of the consoles. Just to provide weight to my view point because were clearly using different parameters. The GCN and Xbox were better products than the PS2 IMO. It was other factors which led to the PS2's success. Just as with 3DS.