oh cry me a river.

this playing the victim card has been played out to death lately and it has reached a point where its just beyond pathetic. you complain about this "bashing" then you go urge other users to go do it! talk about being a hypocrite! then you increase your hypocrisy by making another thread to do this exact same bashing you are complaining about. marvelous!

before going around complaining about other users take a good look at yourself please.

That's not the reason why people complained. There is a big difference to being online, and having to *always* be online.

It may from first instance not seem like much of a difference but actually from a gaming point of view it is.

The problem was:

1. You must connect to the internet at least once every 24 hours or your games would stop working

2. If your internet goes down or you move to somewhere without internet (ie perhaps you are waiting for it to be installed), your games wont work.

3. People don't like this kind of control, if MS decided in the future to switch off the servers, the games would no longer work. When asked they said, "dont worry about it - our servers will be up for along time"... they never directly said - we will not switch off the servers to your games.

This is before I get into the Disk selling/2nd hand sales, disk being useless conversation :)

So basically thats a big difference from having a connected device to the internet. I have about 100 GOG games, I started playing Dungeon Keeper again yesterday, there was no guarentee that any game i purchased (even on disk) on the XboxOne would work 10 years later. That's why people were pissed.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

the good old dungeon keeper...

No, not really, basically I feel that this comment could be a bannable offense because it is a pretty obvious attack/criticism on the mod team, which are not allowed outside of the dedicated mod feedback thread.

Also I was not calling you childish I was calling the comment childish, because if we want to rephrase it then it's basically like saying "they get to do everything, while we aren't allowed anything", which in my opinion can not be classified as anything but a very childish/juvenile thing to say.

I'm not trying to attack you personally, I just can't stand comments like this.

Every Xbox article Sony fans have to drop their sourness on'em.

Youtube,Facebook,GSpot,IGN,NeoGaf,Eurogamer, to the ∞...

I mean they're more sensitive to our issues than we are. Ofcourse Sony fans gonna weather their issues better because you barely see Xbox fans go on a juvenile rampage on every social media outlet to diminish PS just to feel good about themselves. PS: I'm not saying there's no Xbox fans trolling.

All the trolling, flamebait and disrespect during MS's initial policy reveal was desnecessary for example. MS didn't even bother until Xbox customers apparently refrained from pre-ordering X1 and consquently they changed their policies.

It's not about being sensitive, it just gets old all the childish behavior.

it shows nothing other than your lack of understanding of the situation

1- he made a thread complaining about bashing

2- he urged other users to bash the PS4 just for the sake of bashing

3- he went and made a thread about a piece of news thats almost 2 months old just to bash the PS4 and cause trouble.

his ban is the most justifiable ban i ever seen.

and to clarify, the "xbox one punching bag shit" has been other posters posting news about the xbox one, as it turns out a lot of those threads are nagative articles, because guess what, microsoft has been majorly fucking up. he however is just complaining about the negative news and wants it to stop, he wants the mods to filter out the news and just allow postive xbox one threads. but wants more negative PS4 threads. He is basically calling for censorship that favors the xbox one and harms the PS4. 

We'll they get dropping sources because there is a massive denial going on. First it was PS4 is Not more powerfull, then it was secret sauce, now it's resolutoion doesn't matter, or nit picking still pics and arguing x1 looks better despite over whelming evidence., or X1 will get better over time (PS4 won't???).

It's quite clear who are sensitive here, it's not the fanbase being defensive.

Selective opinions?? They have eyes they can see. EVERY site that ahs played both says the ps4 version si CLEARLY a lot better looking, this is fact, please post a site that says it isn't? You have not played either, so you haven't seen anything.. Game in motion is vastly different then random stills, how hard is that to understand?

Is it a Internet conspiracy and they are all Sony fanboys in the gaming press now?

You know what else is not opinion?? Hardware, the ps4 4 hardware is simply more powerfull, this will never change.....a bigger more powerfull GPu is a big deal.

As BanannaKing said, there's way too much "woe is me", people playing the victim. If look on websites, youtube or anywhere there is also a group of people slating Sony/Nintendo all the time. I mean look at the negative stuff the press have been doing about Sony last week, or the brushing under the carpet of resolution differences, and no MP3 on PS4 is suddenly a bigger issue for these sites. So don't think its all one sided, as it aint :)

None of this is exclusive, the only problem some people have is that MS screwed up big time with their launch (sure no one will disagree with that).. .and these gamer floaters who have no hardware allegience have slated MS (as well as everyone else).. and people are getting upset because too many people are slating them.

So, do i agree that it has got out of hand a little, yeah, but it's on all sides. Do i think MS deserves a little payback, well i think the pre-order, the backtrack proves this is not just Sony fans, and I think people need to come to terms with that, rather than using the victim card.

MS screwed up = lots more people hating on MS != Sony fans causing trouble

But just because they changed their policy, doesnt necessarily mean they get a free bus ride into town. Also why should people just start to trust them again, they need to earn the trust back like Sony had to in 2006. It's going to take a lot of hard work and alot of 1st party made games/good policy before people will be happy again. Is that unfair? I dont think so.