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Is Xbox One your punching bag.

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areason on 04 November 2013

only reason it gets hate is because of the way microsoft have handled the situation. Their PR has been absolutely terrible, from the whole 180 to the remarks considering the consoles powers. If the idiots of their PR department kept their mouth closed it wouldn't have such hate on the internet.



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Too_Talls on 04 November 2013
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
DJEVOLVE said:

Seems that this site has turned into a bashing fest for all fans opposing Xbox One. Most talk on this site has been focused on Multi-plats, yet thats about where the story ends. Xbox has done a great job on first party and has in my opinion, a way better launch line up. So the focus obviously has been on Launch Multiplats that are rushed out. Not only rushed but on a new systems. No one is denying that PS4 has more power, but by how much?  This site would have you believe Xbox One is actually the atari 2600. However Ryse has yet to be outshined.

One factor that is always, ALWAYS left out is? Kinect 2.0, a great piece of hardware that will not be ignored by the public or gamers alike. Not only will it not be ignored but will be a major selling point for the system.  You will see a lot of posts that complain about the extra $100 but completely leave out and ignore Kinect, as if it's not even a part of the deal. Personally I think paying a extra $100 for the device is a great deal and will serve them in the future. Launching with the device is a great idea and will be a success, the only people who compain about this, are usually only those who where not going to buy the system in the first place. having the device from the beginning will get games to use in all different ways and get the attention it deserves. I can see FPS games allowing you to peak around corners or many different combinations of actions.

Reasons why most articles are spin.

1. Launch games are not going to be to close to full potential, and are not going to be for some time. Look at what Halo 4 Achieved

2. There is a learning curve for any system, some are easier, some are not. Time is needed, it's new!

3.  Xbox One will Achieve 1080p 60fps on multi-plats and has already on first party game Forza.

 

Now we will get lots of spin and pounding of the chest in here, try to keep it civil.

 

 

 

 

Umm that works for both.....Laucnh games on PS4 don't use all of it's potential either. Both will improve over time, the gap will remain..


Thats an assumption I wouldn't make. so far the difference only lies in res yet th games are identical. if x one make 1080p the norm were would the gap be? ps4 pushing 4k regularly? I doubt that.


Umm every site, person that has PLAYED each version states'THE PS4 version is clearly superior". It is NOT an assumption that PS4 games will also improve, it is not a microsoft only thing. The hardware is the hardware, there is a gap in power, notihng you say changes that. Games look vastly diff in motion then random stills of specific spots.

 

Also ONLy resolution? Resolutoon alone can be a big difference, 1080P versus 720P is near twice the pixels , detail and real estate to render.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

Selective opinions?? They have eyes they can see. EVERY site that ahs played both says the ps4 version si CLEARLY a lot better looking, this is fact, please post a site that says it isn't? You have not played either, so you haven't seen anything.. Game in motion is vastly different then random stills, how hard is that to understand?

 

Is it a Internet conspiracy and they are all Sony fanboys in the gaming press now?

 

You know what else is not opinion?? Hardware, the ps4 4 hardware is simply more powerfull, this will never change.....a bigger more powerfull GPu is a big deal.

I downloadedhigh def video I watched it on my gaming TV. looking at still images are pointless because everything highlighed to benifiet either side were not noticable during the video. And those videos are the best I will ever see that game because I dropped the series. I downloaded them just for comparison sake. And my verdict is they looked the same. That is a fact that it is my opinion just like anyone you seen said one looked better than the other is a FACT that it was their opinion.



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BrainCramps on 04 November 2013
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

Selective opinions?? They have eyes they can see. EVERY site that ahs played both says the ps4 version si CLEARLY a lot better looking, this is fact, please post a site that says it isn't? You have not played either, so you haven't seen anything.. Game in motion is vastly different then random stills, how hard is that to understand?

 

Is it a Internet conspiracy and they are all Sony fanboys in the gaming press now?

 

You know what else is not opinion?? Hardware, the ps4 4 hardware is simply more powerfull, this will never change.....a bigger more powerfull GPu is a big deal.

I downloadedhigh def video I watched it on my gaming TV. looking at still images are pointless because everything highlighed to benifiet either side were not noticable during the video. And those videos are the best I will ever see that game because I dropped the series. I downloaded them just for comparison sake. And my verdict is they looked the same. That is a fact that it is my opinion just like anyone you seen said one looked better than the other is a FACT that it was their opinion.

They don;t look the same,,, but whatever makes you sleep at night.....There is a clear difference. Also watching a video is still not the same as seeing it in motion.



chapset on 04 November 2013

The weekly boo hoo, we are the victim thread, you don't see Sony fans creating those when they are blame for pretty much every damn thing negative post about Microsoft, nintendo, pc, Sony, apple the war in Irak and Obamacare



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Too_Talls on 04 November 2013
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

Selective opinions?? They have eyes they can see. EVERY site that ahs played both says the ps4 version si CLEARLY a lot better looking, this is fact, please post a site that says it isn't? You have not played either, so you haven't seen anything.. Game in motion is vastly different then random stills, how hard is that to understand?

 

Is it a Internet conspiracy and they are all Sony fanboys in the gaming press now?

 

You know what else is not opinion?? Hardware, the ps4 4 hardware is simply more powerfull, this will never change.....a bigger more powerfull GPu is a big deal.

I downloadedhigh def video I watched it on my gaming TV. looking at still images are pointless because everything highlighed to benifiet either side were not noticable during the video. And those videos are the best I will ever see that game because I dropped the series. I downloaded them just for comparison sake. And my verdict is they looked the same. That is a fact that it is my opinion just like anyone you seen said one looked better than the other is a FACT that it was their opinion.

They don;t look the same,,, but whatever makes you sleep at night.....There is a clear difference. Also watching a video is still not the same as seeing it in motion.


Keep dictating to me what I have seen that will make a load of difference. a video is "in motion" fyi.



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Scoobes on 04 November 2013
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:


Umm every site, person that has PLAYED each version states'THE PS4 version is clearly superior". It is NOT an assumption that PS4 games will also improve, it is not a microsoft only thing. The hardware is the hardware, there is a gap in power, notihng you say changes that. Games look vastly diff in motion then random stills of specific spots.

 

Also ONLy resolution? Resolutoon alone can be a big difference, 1080P versus 720P is near twice the pixels , detail and real estate to render.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

He said the hardware is the hardware. The fact is that the PS4 is the more powerful hardware with a better overall GPU (more ROPs, shaders, TMUs, ACE's) and a faster single pool of RAM. It is physically impossible for developers to push more out of less hardware.

The OS overhead can be reduced on both systems, but the PS4 is the easier system to work with so even the rate of improvement favours the PS4 (less time needed for developers to get it to run so more time can be spent optimising and trying out new techniques). 




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BrainCramps on 04 November 2013
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:
Too_Talls said:

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

Selective opinions?? They have eyes they can see. EVERY site that ahs played both says the ps4 version si CLEARLY a lot better looking, this is fact, please post a site that says it isn't? You have not played either, so you haven't seen anything.. Game in motion is vastly different then random stills, how hard is that to understand?

 

Is it a Internet conspiracy and they are all Sony fanboys in the gaming press now?

 

You know what else is not opinion?? Hardware, the ps4 4 hardware is simply more powerfull, this will never change.....a bigger more powerfull GPu is a big deal.

I downloadedhigh def video I watched it on my gaming TV. looking at still images are pointless because everything highlighed to benifiet either side were not noticable during the video. And those videos are the best I will ever see that game because I dropped the series. I downloaded them just for comparison sake. And my verdict is they looked the same. That is a fact that it is my opinion just like anyone you seen said one looked better than the other is a FACT that it was their opinion.

They don;t look the same,,, but whatever makes you sleep at night.....There is a clear difference. Also watching a video is still not the same as seeing it in motion.


Keep dictating to me what I have seen that will make a load of difference. a video is "in motion" fyi.

No it isn't, with video you are at the mercy of how the video was recorded (As digital foundry's botched capture proves), as well as compression. I always laugh at people cherry picking stills and videos to try and convince people how one version looks better then the other despite everyone saying the opposite.

Everyone who has sat down in front of a TV and played both had no doubts for a reason.



BrainCramps on 04 November 2013
Scoobes said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:


Umm every site, person that has PLAYED each version states'THE PS4 version is clearly superior". It is NOT an assumption that PS4 games will also improve, it is not a microsoft only thing. The hardware is the hardware, there is a gap in power, notihng you say changes that. Games look vastly diff in motion then random stills of specific spots.

 

Also ONLy resolution? Resolutoon alone can be a big difference, 1080P versus 720P is near twice the pixels , detail and real estate to render.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

He said the hardware is the hardware. The fact is that the PS4 is the more powerful hardware with a better overall GPU (more ROPs, shaders, TMUs, ACE's) and a faster single pool of RAM. It is physically impossible for developers to push more out of less hardware.

The OS overhead can be reduced on both systems, but the PS4 is the easier system to work with so even the rate of improvement favours the PS4 (less time needed for developers to get it to run so more time can be spent optimising and trying out new techniques). 

Exactly......



DonFerrari on 04 November 2013
chapset said:
The weekly boo hoo, we are the victim thread, you don't see Sony fans creating those when they are blame for pretty much every damn thing negative post about Microsoft, nintendo, pc, Sony, apple the war in Irak and Obamacare

Because Sony fans are to blame for Xbone decisions... I blame you for protesting against DRM.



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Blood_Tears on 04 November 2013

It's getting really pathetic seeing the whole innocent victim posts on here because their favorite console doesn't get the the good press they got last gen.