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Is Xbox One your punching bag.

Yes 80 39.02%
 
no 66 32.20%
 
I don't punch bags. 57 27.80%
 
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DonFerrari on 04 November 2013
Goatseye said:
DonFerrari said:
Goatseye said:
I give rats butt about what people write. I just like to call them out when they're being childish about it.
You can write 100 threads glooming and dooming MS everyday, I won't tell you to stop but I will point out juvenile behavior. 6 years old type of stuff.

I don't really care too much about resolution on X1 because I know it's beautiful. If I did PC would be my platform of choice.
I still play Snes, N64 and X360. Resolution is pretty trivial when accounting for the value of a game.

You could just say you won't own a PS system ever and contain yourself on commenting on things regardings their platform.

I hardly do if I don't have a reasonable opinion. I refrain from useless posts like the ones that abound Xbox articles.

We could just put "I see dumb posters... where??? Everywhere"... all posts are contaminated by useless responses and attacks, from both sizes...



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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kitler53 on 04 November 2013
Goatseye said:
kitler53 said:

i'm going to list off the phases i've seen since i've been on this site:

punching bag = 360 for RRoD.
punching bag = ps3 for $599
punching bag = wii for casual games
punching bag = wii for massive sales drop aka fad
punching bag = ps3 for psn hack
punching bag = 3DS for no games at launch
punching bag = ps vita for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = wiiU for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = xbox one for anti-consumer policies

 

...my only question is why are xbox fans so sensitive?  sony and nintendo fans weathered their shit storms with far more grace.

Every Xbox article Sony fans have to drop their sourness on'em.

Youtube,Facebook,GSpot,IGN,NeoGaf,Eurogamer, to the ∞...

I mean they're more sensitive to our issues than we are. Ofcourse Sony fans gonna weather their issues better because you barely see Xbox fans go on a juvenile rampage on every social media outlet to diminish PS just to feel good about themselves. PS: I'm not saying there's no Xbox fans trolling.

All the trolling, flamebait and disrespect during MS's initial policy reveal was desnecessary for example. MS didn't even bother until Xbox customers apparently refrained from pre-ordering X1 and consquently they changed their policies.

It's not about being sensitive, it just gets old all the childish behavior.

what can i say expect welcome to the internet.   i lived though the exact same thing back when vita trolling was the fashion of the day.  the only difference was sony fans didn't make all these "woe is me" boo-hoo threads/posts.   ...nor did nintendo fans in the hight of the wiiU trolling. 

i'm sorry, but if you think it is childish to discuss the FACT that CoD is 720p on xbox and 1080p on ps4 you need to reevaluate what maturity means.  discussing both the positive and the negative is what makes the a forum for converstation.  if you are looking for a cheerleading session where only the good bits are discussed i suggest you just leave the internet cause you're not going to find there anywhere.



BrainCramps on 04 November 2013
glimmer_of_hope said:
I just don't understand why people get so worked up because someone posts something "negative" about their beloved console. It's not like its going to prevent you from buying Xbox? Just go with it. And in my opinion it is pretty equal on this site.


I  agree, I see the same xbox posters in sony threads every day, do you see posts complaioning about it? We all know who they are, they exist on both sides. it's not like PS3 fans had an easy for, ps3 was laughed at for years.



Nsanity on 04 November 2013

Both sizes? You mean sides?



Goatseye on 04 November 2013
DonFerrari said:

We could just put "I see dumb posters... where??? Everywhere"... all posts are contaminated by useless responses and attacks, from both sizes...

Really? In equal amount?

Ok.



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Too_Talls on 04 November 2013
Scoobes said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:


Umm every site, person that has PLAYED each version states'THE PS4 version is clearly superior". It is NOT an assumption that PS4 games will also improve, it is not a microsoft only thing. The hardware is the hardware, there is a gap in power, notihng you say changes that. Games look vastly diff in motion then random stills of specific spots.

 

Also ONLy resolution? Resolutoon alone can be a big difference, 1080P versus 720P is near twice the pixels , detail and real estate to render.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

He said the hardware is the hardware. The fact is that the PS4 is the more powerful hardware with a better overall GPU (more ROPs, shaders, TMUs, ACE's) and a faster single pool of RAM. It is physically impossible for developers to push more out of less hardware.

The OS overhead can be reduced on both systems, but the PS4 is the easier system to work with so even the rate of improvement favours the PS4 (less time needed for developers to get it to run so more time can be spent optimising and trying out new techniques). 


I get the concept but what is the limit? theoretically from things I've heard the ps4's hardware stacks up better. I am no tech guy. I deal with a lot of software but call me ignorant when it comes to hardware. They list the products and the numbers and evereyone nods to the ps4, fine with me. The problem is when I see some 3rd party developers calling the gap small and similar. I can't quite imagine how far they can take this generation but in my eys I see parity with numbers looking better on one side. at the end of the day, I don't think I would have fun with a game were I manipulate an ever present "1080P" figure on my screen. my opressions are not clouded by the specs. If the ps4 starts to pull away in an obvious manner than in a few years when that happens I'll probably get my own to see for myseelf on my tv. for now and for a long time really it's been sames ville. from the xbox ps2 erra the games looked the same never so much better on either side that it would sway my interest. the differences was the exclusives. As time moved one the percentage of 3rd party devlopers grew and now dominates the market. titan fall is the only "exclusive" I'm interested out of all. right now my choice boils down to controllers and investments. I doubt the graphics ever differ to a level worth mentioning.



http://imageshack.com/a/img801/6426/f7pc.gif

^Yes that's me ripping it up in the GIF. :)

DonFerrari on 04 November 2013
Nsanity said:
Both sizes? You mean sides?

Both sides and sizes... we have tall and small, fat and skinny on them =]

Missed your daily pro-MS secret sauces... were banned on that bet with ethomaz or just wanted a fresh air?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Nsanity on 04 November 2013
kitler53 said:
Goatseye said:
kitler53 said:

i'm going to list off the phases i've seen since i've been on this site:

punching bag = 360 for RRoD.
punching bag = ps3 for $599
punching bag = wii for casual games
punching bag = wii for massive sales drop aka fad
punching bag = ps3 for psn hack
punching bag = 3DS for no games at launch
punching bag = ps vita for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = wiiU for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = xbox one for anti-consumer policies

 

...my only question is why are xbox fans so sensitive?  sony and nintendo fans weathered their shit storms with far more grace.

Every Xbox article Sony fans have to drop their sourness on'em.

Youtube,Facebook,GSpot,IGN,NeoGaf,Eurogamer, to the ∞...

I mean they're more sensitive to our issues than we are. Ofcourse Sony fans gonna weather their issues better because you barely see Xbox fans go on a juvenile rampage on every social media outlet to diminish PS just to feel good about themselves. PS: I'm not saying there's no Xbox fans trolling.

All the trolling, flamebait and disrespect during MS's initial policy reveal was desnecessary for example. MS didn't even bother until Xbox customers apparently refrained from pre-ordering X1 and consquently they changed their policies.

It's not about being sensitive, it just gets old all the childish behavior.

what can i say expect welcome to the internet.   i lived though the exact same thing back when vita trolling was the fashion of the day.  the only difference was sony fans didn't make all these "woe is me" boo-hoo threads/posts.   ...nor did nintendo fans in the hight of the wiiU trolling. 

i'm sorry, but if you think it is childish to discuss the FACT that CoD is 720p on xbox and 1080p on ps4 you need to reevaluate what maturity means.  discussing both the positive and the negative is what makes the a forum for converstation.  if you are looking for a cheerleading session where only the good bits are discussed i suggest you just leave the internet cause you're not going to find there anywhere.

That's embarrasing...



BrainCramps on 04 November 2013
Too_Talls said:
Scoobes said:
Too_Talls said:
BrainCramps said:


Umm every site, person that has PLAYED each version states'THE PS4 version is clearly superior". It is NOT an assumption that PS4 games will also improve, it is not a microsoft only thing. The hardware is the hardware, there is a gap in power, notihng you say changes that. Games look vastly diff in motion then random stills of specific spots.

 

Also ONLy resolution? Resolutoon alone can be a big difference, 1080P versus 720P is near twice the pixels , detail and real estate to render.

I would rather go from what I've seen than selective opinions and I doubt all that played said that. Pretty sure at least 1 I have seen said you couldn't tell the diff, as for me I took the time to download high deff photage to form my own opinion. The key is how visuals are percieved os always a person to person opinion.

You are assuming the speed of improvment will be simoultaneous. That is a niave way of thinking about it. Either side could be quicker about it. 

He said the hardware is the hardware. The fact is that the PS4 is the more powerful hardware with a better overall GPU (more ROPs, shaders, TMUs, ACE's) and a faster single pool of RAM. It is physically impossible for developers to push more out of less hardware.

The OS overhead can be reduced on both systems, but the PS4 is the easier system to work with so even the rate of improvement favours the PS4 (less time needed for developers to get it to run so more time can be spent optimising and trying out new techniques). 


I get the concept but what is the limit? theoretically from things I've heard the ps4's hardware stacks up better. I am no tech guy. I deal with a lot of software but call me ignorant when it comes to hardware. They list the products and the numbers and evereyone nods to the ps4, fine with me. The problem is when I see some 3rd party developers calling the gap small and similar. I can't quite imagine how far they can take this generation but in my eys I see parity with numbers looking better on one side. at the end of the day, I don't think I would have fun with a game were I manipulate an ever present "1080P" figure on my screen. my opressions are not clouded by the specs. If the ps4 starts to pull away in an obvious manner than in a few years when that happens I'll probably get my own to see for myseelf on my tv. for now and for a long time really it's been sames ville. from the xbox ps2 erra the games looked the same never so much better on either side that it would sway my interest. the differences was the exclusives. As time moved one the percentage of 3rd party devlopers grew and now dominates the market. titan fall is the only "exclusive" I'm interested out of all. right now my choice boils down to controllers and investments. I doubt the graphics ever differ to a level worth mentioning.

They already are at different level worth mentioning (just see all the talk about 720P versis 1080p, the gap was never this big before), and numerous devs have said the PS4 is a lot more powerfull. Others have taken the PR rpute. it is obvious, again, hardware is hardware, and now we are seeing nearly double the resolution on PS4 then x1.....the proof is in the pudding. You can keep denying all you want, won't change the facts.



Blood_Tears on 04 November 2013
kitler53 said:
Goatseye said:
kitler53 said:

i'm going to list off the phases i've seen since i've been on this site:

punching bag = 360 for RRoD.
punching bag = ps3 for $599
punching bag = wii for casual games
punching bag = wii for massive sales drop aka fad
punching bag = ps3 for psn hack
punching bag = 3DS for no games at launch
punching bag = ps vita for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = wiiU for shit-tacular sales and no games
punching bag = xbox one for anti-consumer policies

 

...my only question is why are xbox fans so sensitive?  sony and nintendo fans weathered their shit storms with far more grace.

Every Xbox article Sony fans have to drop their sourness on'em.

Youtube,Facebook,GSpot,IGN,NeoGaf,Eurogamer, to the ∞...

I mean they're more sensitive to our issues than we are. Ofcourse Sony fans gonna weather their issues better because you barely see Xbox fans go on a juvenile rampage on every social media outlet to diminish PS just to feel good about themselves. PS: I'm not saying there's no Xbox fans trolling.

All the trolling, flamebait and disrespect during MS's initial policy reveal was desnecessary for example. MS didn't even bother until Xbox customers apparently refrained from pre-ordering X1 and consquently they changed their policies.

It's not about being sensitive, it just gets old all the childish behavior.

what can i say expect welcome to the internet.   i lived though the exact same thing back when vita trolling was the fashion of the day.  the only difference was sony fans didn't make all these "woe is me" boo-hoo threads/posts.   ...nor did nintendo fans in the hight of the wiiU trolling. 

i'm sorry, but if you think it is childish to discuss the FACT that CoD is 720p on xbox and 1080p on ps4 you need to reevaluate what maturity means.  discussing both the positive and the negative is what makes the a forum for converstation.  if you are looking for a cheerleading session where only the good bits are discussed i suggest you just leave the internet cause you're not going to find there anywhere.


This.

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