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DD_Bwest on 31 October 2013

If you see both sides of the war on this site listening to someone sharing info and being respectful about what he says, You should probably learn to listen. Hes the sites resident GS insider. GS has a large enough market share to generally reflect the over all market. will it be exact? no, but it is essentially a massive poll that you need to pay to vote.



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BenVTrigger on 31 October 2013
justinian said:
BenVTrigger said:
jamesmarkus87 said:
I find it hard to believe that Microsoft is having trouble keeping up with demand, especially now that people are cancelling their pre-orders. 720p, anyone?


Gonna go ahead and assume sarcasm on this one.

The broad demographic of consumers are 100% oblivious to these kinds of things. In fact a huge chunk of those interested in PS4 are 100% unaware they have to pay for online on the console.

Same with X1 and the weaker ports. The things that are discussed heavily in forum wars will have little to no bearing on hardware sales. Marketing, exclusive titles, and price will have far more impact than silly resolution wars 95% of the demographic couldnt care about.

I am going to disagree with you and say that anyone pre-ordering or buying a PS4 or XB1 at or soon after the launch date is very intuned and informed with everything regarding that console.  These are not the casual wii type consoles that causes the casuals confusion. These are so called "hard-core" consoles for core gamers.

There are unlikely to be grannies in the queue waiting for a PS4.. unless someone else ask them to. Casuals don't care about getting a PS4 at launch.

To play what? Sony Sing song party?

Yes there will be "confused" buyers but not as many as you think on the these so-called "gamer" consoles.

Are you standing in stores taking pre orders talking to consumers and taking their pre orders? No? I am.

What i posted isnt my opinion its a fact. Most honestly dont care but your average consumer litteraly look nothing like the people who post on forums. And the belief only core gamers pre order consoles is an absolute myth.



Figgycal on 31 October 2013

I don't think people have been claiming DOOMED for Xbox One since the reversal.



irstupid on 31 October 2013
DD_Bwest said:
If you see both sides of the war on this site listening to someone sharing info and being respectful about what he says, You should probably learn to listen. Hes the sites resident GS insider. GS has a large enough market share to generally reflect the over all market. will it be exact? no, but it is essentially a massive poll that you need to pay to vote.

Screw someone halfways important with real information.

When I'm watching a youtube video from my favorite Sony Let's Play, on the ps4 release for the 30th time, I see it has it has 10 million views.  The XBox One video from that same poster that I haven't watched only has 1 million views.  This PROVES that PS4 is 10x more popular and will sell 10x more.  Screw gamestop.  I'm all wise an knowing.

Oh and also I typed PS4 and XBox in amazon and this also makes me an expert.



ExistentialNihilist on 31 October 2013
anamme said:
ExistentialNihilist said:
work gamestop know only gamestop yet pretend to know all number? this stupid. he say about only gamestop not every else. he lie about know total expect parity at all retail so dumb no logic


Okay enough with the Cookie Monster english, it isn't cute. Unless you don't speak English very well, but somehow know what 'parity' means...



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Figgycal on 31 October 2013

Also how is knack doing? I'm guessing not very well...?



Xen on 31 October 2013
anamme said:
ExistentialNihilist said:
work gamestop know only gamestop yet pretend to know all number? this stupid. he say about only gamestop not every else. he lie about know total expect parity at all retail so dumb no logic


Okay enough with the Cookie Monster english, it isn't cute. Unless you don't speak English very well, but somehow know what 'parity' means...

Yeah, because that's a super tough English word... >.< even in my mother tongue, Russian, it's "paritet".

Will be interesting to see the NA launch.



arcane_chaos on 31 October 2013

thanks for the insight ben



afi77 on 31 October 2013

Thanks for the info! Please keep it up, and ignore all the venom ppl are spewing without reason.



gergroy on 31 October 2013
ExistentialNihilist said:
gergroy said:

Im pretty sure gamestop (the largest game retailer in america) has enough data that it can be assumed to reflect the market as whole, scientifically speaking plus or minus a few points. 


i no deal assume only fact. i find this http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/wal-mart-top-us-games-retailer what have you? butt?

Walmart is big box, it sells everything.  I was talking about game specific retailers.  Anyway, do you know how polling is done?  Much like the article you just posted there, they surveyed a bunch of people until they had a large enough sample size so they could determine within a margin of possibility who the most popular game retailer was.  It is a scientific fact that if you have a large enough sample size you can accurately predict the outcome of event within a certain margin.  Gamestop certainly has enough of a sample size to have a good idea of what the numbers are going to be, at least here in america.  Besides, this whole thing really boils down to how many systems are available at launch.  If gamestop is getting more ps4s than x1s, then it is going to be the same situation at every other retailer.