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gergroy on 31 October 2013
ExistentialNihilist said:
who you? pull number from butt? no one know preorders totals except sony/ms


He works at gamestop i believe and has access to the companies internal numbers.



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Munkeh111 on 31 October 2013

What I'm really surprised about is that its not Knack driving hardware sales. That always seemed like the key game to me



wfz on 31 October 2013

7 years ago, 3 month unit sales of games accounted for less than 40% of LTD sales. Nowadays the first 3 month unit sales of AAA releases count for 80%+ of LTD sales.

So basically, console sales will be much more frontloaded and consoles are DOOMED.

Hah.



crissindahouse on 31 October 2013
Munkeh111 said:
What I'm really surprised about is that its not Knack driving hardware sales. That always seemed like the key game to me

That will drive them next holidays as bundle for families



BenVTrigger on 31 October 2013
gergroy said:
Do you know anything about what the margin of availability is? Like is ps4 going to have a much larger amount of product available at launch? I know most analysts predict about even sales initially, but some employees at stores are saying that they will have more ps4s by more than a 2 to 1 margin.


I touched on this briefly. Currently Sony is in a better position allocation wise than MS. The 2 to 1 number whike once true really doesnt have bearing anymore. MS have been aggresive in adding new consoles for pre order. That being said they still trail Sony.



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Arcturus on 31 October 2013
BenVTrigger said:

So here we are guys and gals. Only 3 - 4 weeks out from the beginning of next gen.  Exciting times for the industry and very exciting times to work in the sales part of this industry. I just wanted to touch on a few thing's I've seen floating around on the Internet regarding sales.

 

1. There is no bomba here. Anyone suggesting either PS4 or X1 will be a flop at launch and that their preferred console will annihilate the other is in for a rude awakening. The PS4 / X1 launch will be the biggest the industry has ever seen.

2. The winner goes to who can manufactur the most. Neither Sony nor MS are anywhere close to hitting demand. Expect consoles to be difficult to find until January or so at the absolute earliest.  Currently its looking like Sony is in the best position production wise but X1 is gaining ground and adding more consoles for pre order.

3. Cross gen games will rule the sales. COD, Battlefield 4, and AC4 will be the software leaders at launch so expect more of the same there. Killzone,  Ryse, Dead Rising,  and Forza should all see success as well.

 

In closing get ready for an amazing launch of next gen hardware and software. The industry is in an amazing position and the next 3 or ao months will be amazing for sales. There are some questions on how these consoles will perform in the long run but sales should stay strong throughtout much of next year with a steady stream of titles such as Infamous Second Son, Titanfall, Driveclub, and Watch Dogs all due in the first half of the year.

If you don't mind me asking, what level of insight do you have this information? Are we talking a store level, regional level, country or continent wide?



ExistentialNihilist on 31 October 2013
gergroy said:
ExistentialNihilist said:
who you? pull number from butt? no one know preorders totals except sony/ms


He works at gamestop i believe and has access to the companies internal numbers.



work gamestop know only gamestop yet pretend to know all number? this stupid. he say about only gamestop not every else. he lie about know total expect parity at all retail so dumb no logic

Munkeh111 on 31 October 2013
BenVTrigger said:
gergroy said:
Do you know anything about what the margin of availability is? Like is ps4 going to have a much larger amount of product available at launch? I know most analysts predict about even sales initially, but some employees at stores are saying that they will have more ps4s by more than a 2 to 1 margin.

I touched on this briefly. Currently Sony is in a better position allocation wise than MS. The 2 to 1 number whike once true really doesnt have bearing anymore. MS have been aggresive in adding new consoles for pre order. That being said they still trail Sony.

The thing is, you would imagine that M$ are probably prioritising America more than Sony. So there might be a significant gap elsewhere

But it is a competition between who can make more as you say



gergroy on 31 October 2013
BenVTrigger said:
gergroy said:
Do you know anything about what the margin of availability is? Like is ps4 going to have a much larger amount of product available at launch? I know most analysts predict about even sales initially, but some employees at stores are saying that they will have more ps4s by more than a 2 to 1 margin.


I touched on this briefly. Currently Sony is in a better position allocation wise than MS. The 2 to 1 number whike once true really doesnt have bearing anymore. MS have been aggresive in adding new consoles for pre order. That being said they still trail Sony.


Cool, i was just wondering if it was as large as 2 to 1 still.



BenVTrigger on 31 October 2013
Arcturus said:
BenVTrigger said:

So here we are guys and gals. Only 3 - 4 weeks out from the beginning of next gen.  Exciting times for the industry and very exciting times to work in the sales part of this industry. I just wanted to touch on a few thing's I've seen floating around on the Internet regarding sales.

 

1. There is no bomba here. Anyone suggesting either PS4 or X1 will be a flop at launch and that their preferred console will annihilate the other is in for a rude awakening. The PS4 / X1 launch will be the biggest the industry has ever seen.

2. The winner goes to who can manufactur the most. Neither Sony nor MS are anywhere close to hitting demand. Expect consoles to be difficult to find until January or so at the absolute earliest.  Currently its looking like Sony is in the best position production wise but X1 is gaining ground and adding more consoles for pre order.

3. Cross gen games will rule the sales. COD, Battlefield 4, and AC4 will be the software leaders at launch so expect more of the same there. Killzone,  Ryse, Dead Rising,  and Forza should all see success as well.

 

In closing get ready for an amazing launch of next gen hardware and software. The industry is in an amazing position and the next 3 or ao months will be amazing for sales. There are some questions on how these consoles will perform in the long run but sales should stay strong throughtout much of next year with a steady stream of titles such as Infamous Second Son, Titanfall, Driveclub, and Watch Dogs all due in the first half of the year.

If you don't mind me asking, what level of insight do you have this information? Are we talking a store level, regional level, country or continent wide?


Company wide.