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mutantclown on 27 October 2013
kowenicki said:
Nem said:

I totally hope that happens. I want to see Microsoft pushed back to beeing almost irrelevant. I feel they brought many destructive/greedy practices to the market that has been costing us consumers and publishers/developers and will continue to do so.
I do hope the Wii U picks up though (it already is tbh). I would be very pleased with a Sony/Nintendo only market. Microsoft can go back to beeing 3rd party or focus on phones or something. Thats where their pet rival Apple is afterall.


Such a blinkered and sad post.   So they brought practices that other manufacturers were FORCED to follow?  Name these awful, destructive and greedy practices that the industry HAD TO FOLLOW. 

I'll tell you one thing that they have brought which you should be eternally grateful for.... competition.  Imagine thr PS3 with its launch price and no competition...

You need to wise up.

 

 

 


What if the PS3 had no competition? People wouldn't have bought it more either way (first year). And I can imagine Sony without competition, it's called PS2. I bet you had one and enjoyed it a lot. Sony had no competition whatsoever to worry about with PS2, launched at $300 and in just 18 months they cut the price down to $200. Yeah, competition was so crucial back then....oh please gimme a break.



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STRYKIE on 27 October 2013
Michael-5 said:

Then order will be restored.

Nintendo deserves a decent Market share if they can push out the games. It was unfair when Gamecube sold so poorly, didn't get many multiplatform titles (despite being more powerful), but had great games. So far with the WiiU, Nintendo isn't giving this though, so if PS4 dominates, that's fine.

MS shouldn't do well, not even just because of the policies on the One, but because of the poor customer support, sudden stop of production of core games after Kinect, and continuous cash grabs they had going with the 360.


Nintendo brought that on themselves by going with an irrelevant storage medium, and a barebones controller, it had better specs than the PS2 on paper, but games like San Andreas would've been counter-intuitive as all hell if the GC had a port.

 

Plus, you seem to be forgetting that the original Xbox.... existed.



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askel50 on 27 October 2013

Xbox one will do same numbers as xbox 360, maybe PS4 will do much better than PS3, but 70-80M of consoles life time are enough to secure support, especially if you take into account that porting will be very easy, not like in the PS2 era. So it won't matter in terms of 3rd party support if that is what this topic is about.



Turkish on 27 October 2013
Suke said:
Turkish said:
Suke said:
It will be boring and bad for the industry, remember back in the nineties, Nintendo had 85% of the gaming market......yeah, let that sink in.


Were you around in the 90s? Nintendo never dominated the console market in the 90s,  first half was a close race between SNES and Megadrive, the 5th gen was dominated by the PS1 which sold 3x as much as N64.


Dude, Nintendo own 85% of the market in the early 90's, and I'm not bragging about their success, I was explaining why it could be bad for a company to fully dominated a market. Nintendo was brutal how to control the market and made it impossible for other electronic companies to reach Nintendo success level. Only one that came fully close was Sega. 

Thanks to Nintendo's formal President, Hiroshi Yamauchi, (god bless his soul), he was part of the reason why the Playstation became what it is today. I want all three companies (Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft) and the industry as a whole to do well, none of this one domination childish bullsh*t.


Are you delusional or just trying to stay ignorant to the facts? Do you know the marketshare of Genesis vs SNES?

Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.10 million[3][10][11]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 40 million[12]
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) 1988 29-35 million[cn 1]

Does that look 85 percent to you? If so, you suck at maths and go back to school. When PlayStation came out in the 2nd half of the 90s Sony dominated the market, PS1 sold 3x as much as n64 and 10x as much as Saturn. Nintendo never dominated any market before the Wii and they're about to lose that title to the PS3.



tbone51 on 27 October 2013
Turkish said:


Are you delusional or just trying to stay ignorant to the facts? Do you know the marketshare of Genesis vs SNES?

Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.10 million[3][10][11]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 40 million[12]
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) 1988 29-35 million[cn 1]

Does that look 85 percent to you? If so, you suck at maths and go back to school. When PlayStation came out in the 2nd half of the 90s Sony dominated the market, PS1 sold 3x as much as n64 and 10x as much as Saturn. Nintendo never dominated any market before the Wii and they're about to lose that title to the PS3.


Hey hey hey now >_<! Wii Dont kno if it'll lose yet. PS3 will keep on selling and climb for the next 3-4 years (X360 too but probably die off in 2 years) but cant say yet if it'll pass Wii! If it does it would do so 2016/2017! 

 

Also 85%+ In the handheld market (^o^)



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Drakester on 27 October 2013

Itd be great, itd show that Sony are well and truely back, Microsoft has PC, just stay there Microsoft and let Sony and Nintendo battle it out



zorg1000 on 27 October 2013

If Sony dominates, Playstation 4 will sell more than Wii U and Xbox One



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Frequency on 27 October 2013
tbone51 said:
Turkish said:


Are you delusional or just trying to stay ignorant to the facts? Do you know the marketshare of Genesis vs SNES?

Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.10 million[3][10][11]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 40 million[12]
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) 1988 29-35 million[cn 1]

Does that look 85 percent to you? If so, you suck at maths and go back to school. When PlayStation came out in the 2nd half of the 90s Sony dominated the market, PS1 sold 3x as much as n64 and 10x as much as Saturn. Nintendo never dominated any market before the Wii and they're about to lose that title to the PS3.


Hey hey hey now >_

 

Also 85%+ In the handheld market (^o^)

DS  154.79 (65.9%)
PSP 79.94 (44.1%)
3DS 35.16 (85.6%)
PSV 5.90 (14.4%)

Will be interesting to see Vita totals in January after PS4 and VTV launch.



daredevil.shark on 27 October 2013
Frequency said:

the last time Sony consoles dominated, PS1 and PS2 we ended up with vast libraries of great games on a single system, despite buying all 3 I am all for that happening again.

It must be fairly frustrating for the hardcore Microsoft fan though, to be on top for much of this generation like the popular guy in highschool, then not only have the carpet swept from under your feet at the last second, but facing the prospect of spending the remainder of your college years in the shadow of the new mr popular, though the same was said for the PlayStation fan when mr popular ps2 got to college and his room mate Xbox 360 got all the girls - i suppose if were sticking with that theme in the end ps3 grew up and got rid of the acne, bottle-bottom glasses and became popular too.

You can call out xbox fans for their story changing avoidance tactic ways all you want though, just know and understand that if the tables were turned its the playstation fans that would be doing all of the defending, much like they did with the PS3 in the early days.

Only major difference here is that as a console brand, despite all of Microsofts piles of money, despite a matured and excellent network infrastructure, the PlayStation brand is just more widely liked around the world, evident from the PS3 playing catch up (but actually catching up) since the day it was launched, despite the higher press, less games and usually the crapper version of multiplats.

Launching with the opposite climate, the public favor, lower price point and virtually identical launch windows, the Xbox One doesnt stand a chance in the short or longterm, i just hope it does well enough sales wise to have a long and fruitful life as there are a fair number of promising and enjoyable IPs attached to them.

Anyone wishing their failure, are essentially wishing the demise of very good franchises, in which case you are wanting the destruction of games purely because those games arent on your chosen system, and you need to grow up.

Xbox fans that cling to the prospect that the xbox one has hidden power, or will match or even beat the ps4 this generation, also need to wake up and smell the coffee, it isnt bad to remain an xbox fan, not by a long shot, enjoy the console and enjoy the games, and playstation fans, we get it the PS4 is more powerful, and is most likely going to sweep this generation with ease, its obvious so shut up and play your games theres no need to kick others while theyre down, just be realistic about things or regardless of which side youre on, or which side comes out on top, you move from being a fan to being a fanboy.


Well said.



STRYKIE on 27 October 2013
Turkish said:
Suke said:
Turkish said:
Suke said:
It will be boring and bad for the industry, remember back in the nineties, Nintendo had 85% of the gaming market......yeah, let that sink in.


Were you around in the 90s? Nintendo never dominated the console market in the 90s,  first half was a close race between SNES and Megadrive, the 5th gen was dominated by the PS1 which sold 3x as much as N64.


Dude, Nintendo own 85% of the market in the early 90's, and I'm not bragging about their success, I was explaining why it could be bad for a company to fully dominated a market. Nintendo was brutal how to control the market and made it impossible for other electronic companies to reach Nintendo success level. Only one that came fully close was Sega. 

Thanks to Nintendo's formal President, Hiroshi Yamauchi, (god bless his soul), he was part of the reason why the Playstation became what it is today. I want all three companies (Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft) and the industry as a whole to do well, none of this one domination childish bullsh*t.


Are you delusional or just trying to stay ignorant to the facts? Do you know the marketshare of Genesis vs SNES?

Nintendo Super Nintendo Entertainment System 1990 49.10 million[3][10][11]
Atari Atari 2600 1977 40 million[12]
Sega Genesis (Mega Drive) 1988 29-35 million[cn 1]

Does that look 85 percent to you? If so, you suck at maths and go back to school. When PlayStation came out in the 2nd half of the 90s Sony dominated the market, PS1 sold 3x as much as n64 and 10x as much as Saturn. Nintendo never dominated any market before the Wii and they're about to lose that title to the PS3.

To be fair, I think he might of meant right at the start of the 90's, like, before the Mega Drive/Genesis truly found it's feet with Sonic, Streets of Rage, Golden Axe, and it hadn't been released in PAL terrortories where Sega actually had the edge in market share.

 

There's no disputing just how much of a stronghold Nintendo had prior to that with the NES however, although I don't see that happening with the PS4, even during the PS2 days, the original Xbox still had significant 3rd party support, and even a solid amount of 3rd party exclusives, the NES's competitiors didn't have that in any way shape or form in Japan and America, it wasn't until the main figureheads in the RPG genre/Arcade industry boycotted the N64 that Nintendo ran into a brick wall.



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