^Its sad how much you try lol. The fact that they have had billion dollar loses at all is pathetic. This pales in comparison and if things really were that bad they would just drop home consoles and go all handheld. Then we would never see Ninty outsold again. Don't you enjoy Ninty giving Sony a home console they can beat instead of an dominate handheld?

By the way, there will be actually a Investors Q&A this week?

Without a doubt they will have a solid 3rd quarter.  It almost goes without saying.  The 3rd quarter is where they make most of their sales, and it is supposed to be the quarter that balances off the rest of the year. Realistically, I think most sensible people expect Nintendo to turn a good profit for the quarter and in turn for the full fiscal year.  The debate is mostly how much.  Nintendo had bold projections for Wii U sales and overall profits.  They will probably come up short on both, but I would still expect lots of black ink.  3DS should do great and if Wii U can get respectable, they will be making lots of money.

Seems about right.

I'm glad you are banned.

You know nothing of financials, so please step aside. Furthermore, the results are not within the realms of market expectations and they are embarassing as they have been posting operational losses for the past three years (they will post an operating income year-end however, which is positive in itself) and have shown no signs of growth.

Who would replace him, though? A recent GAF thread discussed that the board of directors is almost entirely stacked with people favorable to Iwata (there is one person alone who may have differing opinions, possibly). Unless Yamauchi's shares go to Arakawa and Arakawa himself decides to seize control, a leadership shakeup would make no difference in terms of direction. It's like all the Americans yelling "impeach Obama" when what that would get them... is President Joe Biden.

Aside from the fact that Nintendo's doing what they can with the Wii U. It is not a poor product, but it has been poorly executed so far, and some of those factors (third party flight) being ultimately out of Nintendo's hands, they're doing what they can: cut price and bundle winning software and wait for more good software to come. Not sure what the anti-Wii U crowd wants, here (cutting the Wii U short and replacing it quickly is the recipe to kill Nintendo's reputation altogether, as not standing by their hardware is really what killed Sega, the lack of confidence from the CD, 32X, and Saturn).

We also forget when Sony was losing money hand over fist with the PS3 (and they were selling more units at the time), and managed to turn it around. Granted, because they had the third parties all running interference for them, but surely Nintendo could manage a somewhat similar turnaround.

I had expected a small profit so this is quite disappointing. 3DS is doing alright but Wii U needs some serious help. This holiday season will be extremely important for Wii U and Nintendo better give 101% or else I'll start to fear for Wii U's future.

An operating loss? That's rare.

Probably should have highlighted your entire post lol. But in any case, here's my response;

The 'winning' software they are bundling is not showing any signs of moving the hardware. Which is the primary purpose of a first party dev. If the software is poor the box is also poor (by default). Here's the problem, the anti Wii U crowd, is generally a pro Wii crowd, they want a return to that form from Nintendo.

Nintendo is doing a pretty good job destroying their reputation as a software developer.

I never forgot Sony's clusterf*** known as the PS3. They will never recoup those loses. Sony's Vita was doa, and Sony selling off buildings to hide their horrid finances has not been forgotten by me. But I've never been a Sony fan, so that's largely not something I care about.

Nintendo on the other hand, I have been a fan of. But there are certain things I will not cosign on. Its dangerous to not hold a company accountable. Turning a blind eye to their failings and even praising those failings only encourage more failings.

I'm definitely not as versed on Nintendo matters as I am with Sony, but perhaps what people want is something different for the future; rather than the now.

I agree with you.  There's not much else they can do for the moment except slash the price; bundle games that people do want and try their best to get software out for the future.

Question is, why are you forced to wait for this "future software" in the first place?

This is what, the third round of "software is coming; please understand" (Wii; 3DS; Wii-U)?  Maybe it's time to start questioning things.  Inevitably Nintendo aren't going to leave the hardware business any time soon; and Nintendo hardware appears to be on a shorter lifecycle then at the very least Sony, but likely Microsoft too.

Someone else could run the development that's already going on for Wii-U/3DS, while planning ahead for the next batch of hardware (as silly as that sounds less than a year after Wii-U's launch) to avoid having to say "We're sorry, games are coming" for the fourth and fifth times.  Because apparently, that's not something Iwata can manage.  He always gets there in the end; I'm not questioning that.  But someone else could potentially "get there" right from the start and then continue that through to the end.