I'd say the ps360 versions of rayman legends are the flops of the year, selling less than the wii u version.

This post reflects my thoughts on the matter accurately.

Essentially, there are two types of video games: games you just buy, and games you buy consoles for. The latter are games that have appeal that let them stand on their own, effectively, and so you'll see consistency across the long-term, even if there may be fluctuation within generations (Zelda is a good example). For the latter, however, existing userbase size plays a much larger role in the calculus of how much it's going to sell, though it's only one part of the calculus.

I think Beyond will easily reach 1 million, maybe 1.5 million and that's not a flop. Brain Age for the 3DS is a real flop...

It's sold 300k in a week. That's not great, but it's certainly not bad either. I think it will get over a million lifetime sales. 

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That's the wrong way to look at things. A game like Beyond is has niche appeal as it's not a mainstream style of game. The niche of gamers that are potential buyers of Beyond is probably about 3 million PS3 owners at best. So week 1 Beyond sold to about 10% of it's market potential. I don't know enough about W101 to be able to characterise how niche of a game it is, but I suspect it's not a style of game that direclty appeals to the Mario fans.

And one musty also consider that the most wildly popular games on PS3 (and 360) have sold to only about 15% of the install base. So 15% of the install base looks to be the upper limit of sales potential for PS3 games. In that context 300K week 1 is OK.

Also with a game like W101 it doesn't have a lot of competition for the attention of Wii U owners. Beyond has hundreds of games with at least a 5pt metacritic advantage over it to compete with, let alone the whole library of PS3 games. W101 on the other hand is the 27th best Wii U game by metascore on a system with a library of 75 games (that have metascores). A game like W101 *should* be selling to a higher % of Wii owners than it has. And I entirely blame Wii U owners forits flop status, because objectively W101 should be selling way way better than it is.

Considering the fact that W101's budget is paltry compared to the gazzillions of Hollywood style $$$ they spent on Beyond, I'd say your comparison is invalid.

W101 could still have legs and even if it only makes it to a few 100k in sales, it could still make Platinum money.

Beyond, on the other hand, is already, unequvocably a "flop", financially speaking.

And therein, folks, lies the danger and (arguably) absurdity in trying to make Hollywood-sized-budget games, that try their damdest to act like Hollywood blockbuster movies. If it fails, it fails hard. This kind of thing has brought down entire companies within the last decade. This whole "AAA" budget game phenomenon has never, ever been smart or sustainable, and if the industry doesn't move away from it as the current standard practice, it's going to eventually collapse in on itself.

They raked in €100M in revenue from Heay Rain. Beyond: Two Souls will be profitable.

I honestly had no idea another one had come out till I read this.

you're goddamn right