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RazorDragon said:
fatslob-:O said:
Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

@Bold That includes the GPU.

The cpu in the 3DS is just as weak as the gamecube. PC gamers know full well that a pure ARM cpu is really shit in floating point performance so you're the one with less understanding about system hardware here. The cpu is almost irrelevant when pushing better graphics.

The PS2 can push out more polygons so your point is ?

Nice that you say "PC-gamers know full well"...

I give not much credit to the opinion of gamers of any sort and what they THINK they know.

ARM-architecture is as x86-architecture a wide field of CPUs. So putting general attributes to such a broad architecture shows lack of knowledge.

And do you have a polygon-benchmark to prove your claim about PS2 (again: not really doubting it, but also not believing it without further evidence). And under which circumstances are pushed how much polygons? Lighting, texture quality, effects and so on?

You realize that the only difference in x86 cpus is the microarchitectures, right ? (Excluding the xeon phi.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2_technical_specifications (Check the citation if you want.) 

It draws around 15-20 million polygons per second with peak texture and lighting effects while the scene is in movement. 


Actually, the polygon count record for the 6th gen was Rogue Squadron III on the Gamecube, and that was 20 million polygons/s with high-res textures and lightning. PS2's peak polygon count was Jak and Daxter 2 with 10~12 million polygons/s.

I'm sure that there were games on the xbox that pushed more polygons. 



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fatslob-:O said:

Jak and Daxter has pushed 15 mil polygons. 

BTW if there are citations I don't see an issue. 

I don`t know any developers claiming claiming over 20mill seeing as how the max is 19.5 mil polygons in real world settings. 

http://develop.scee.net/files/presentations/PSP/HowFarHaveWeGot.pdf

Enjoy.



The rEVOLution is not being televised

Viper1 said:
fatslob-:O said:

Jak and Daxter has pushed 15 mil polygons. 

BTW if there are citations I don't see an issue. 

I don`t know any developers claiming claiming over 20mill seeing as how the max is 19.5 mil polygons in real world settings. 

http://develop.scee.net/files/presentations/PSP/HowFarHaveWeGot.pdf

Enjoy.

LOL...Mr. Red Dead Redemption will need another alt if this keeps up!!! PWNED



fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20



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Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20

The last digit is zero and I was thinking of giving some generic programming assignment like some manager would give not some project euler. =/



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Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20


I think this isn't a good task. Generally math-tasks are not really what you should take for showing programming skills. Or perhaps you should've ask him to write this in brainfuck, ook! or sparc-assembly and show us the source.



walsufnir said:
Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20


I think this isn't a good task. Generally math-tasks are not really what you should take for showing programming skills. Or perhaps you should've ask him to write this in brainfuck, ook! or sparc-assembly and show us the source.

LOL brainfuck isn't even practical.



fatslob-:O said:
Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20

The last digit is zero and I was thinking of giving some generic programming assignment like some manager would give not some project euler. =/

Nope, it's not zero. You didn't even try to fake you have an idea. So well, I expected from you that you have no idea about programming or computers.



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walsufnir said:
Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20


I think this isn't a good task. Generally math-tasks are not really what you should take for showing programming skills. Or perhaps you should've ask him to write this in brainfuck, ook! or sparc-assembly and show us the source.

project Euler works - because you cannot solve the problems without coding a program for that problem. And in the region of higher numbered problems the brute force approach will usually fail you, that will need normal computers thousands of years to calculate. With optimization on the area of the problem you can reduce the complexity. Currently I try problem 407, and from some testing I expect the computer to finish the task in 7 hours. No, without programming skills you cannot solve Project Euler problems.

But nice idea with Brainfuck.

EDIT: To be clear: I don't think Project Euler is useful to find good programmers. But I think it is useful to see, if people are able to program or not. If they are unable, they can only google the solutions, and not too many blather them out. Who has solved ten or more probably solved them himself. if they are able to program, they should be able to solve simpler Project Euler problems. Brute force does work on some of them with a good enough computer. But that at least needs you to use a compiler and write basic programs. fatslob failed that test.



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Mnementh said:
walsufnir said:
Mnementh said:
fatslob-:O said:
 

Then you wouldn't mind if I test out your programming capabilites ? That's what a boss should do to every applicant that tests out a persons programming knowledge so you got any problems with me testing out or what ? 

Go on, but remember, we can judge you based on your questions as well as you can judge me based on my answers. That said - let's look if you have any programming capabilities. I think every decent programmer is able to solve the lower-numbered Project Euler problems within a day or two. As I don't want to blather openly the solutions of Project Euler and spoil the fun about it, I only say the first digit of the solution to #20: 6. Tell me the last digit.

My Project euler friend-code is 6098827511648_2d71f0f1211169b6d7a724e43fe5e5a6 - what is yours?

http://projecteuler.net/

Problem 20: http://projecteuler.net/problem=20


I think this isn't a good task. Generally math-tasks are not really what you should take for showing programming skills. Or perhaps you should've ask him to write this in brainfuck, ook! or sparc-assembly and show us the source.

project Euler works - because you cannot solve the problems without coding a program for that problem. And in the region of higher numbered problems the brute force approach will usually fail you, that will need normal computers thousands of years to calculate. With optimization on the area of the problem you can reduce the complexity. Currently I try problem 407, and from some testing I expect the computer to finish the task in 7 hours. No, without programming skills you cannot solve Project Euler problems.

But nice idea with Brainfuck.

EDIT: To be clear: I don't think Project Euler is useful to find good programmers. But I think it is useful to see, if people are able to program or not. If they are unable, they can only google the solutions, and not too many blather them out. Who has solved ten or more probably solved them himself. if they are able to program, they should be able to solve simpler Project Euler problems. Brute force does work on some of them with a good enough computer. But that at least needs you to use a compiler and write basic programs. fatslob failed that test.

Oops looks like I didn't read the question correctly, you got me there. (The last digits is 8.)

My request will test you on the knowledge of arrays, sorting, and functions if you don't mind. (Do you want classes to go with that ?)