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deathgod33 on 22 June 2008

of course ps3 will win over 360, what i want to see, is beat the wii!



 

 

 

 

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mr.elite on 22 June 2008
deathgod33 said:
of course ps3 will win over 360, what i want to see, is beat the wii!

 

As much as I hate the wii and everything about it, its going to win this generation. Nintendo is great at what they do, with the exception of gamecube.



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Squilliam on 22 June 2008
mr.elite said:
Squilliam said:
mr.elite said:
Gamer4life said:
Squilliam said:
This thread = Blind fanboy.

The Xbox360 will outsell the PS3 2nd half of this year world wide.

May as well go against the grain eh?

Reasons?

1. Awesome games that cater to a different audience this year (JRPG/RPG) and not shooters. Different audience = different market to sell to = more sales.
2. They can make a price cut and still be profitiable.
3. They are in the next best position behind Nintendo to utilize motion controls. Because A, they have one foot firmly set in the mouse dominated PC world. B, They have launched 3 hardware SKUs so they can be flexible and modify their offerings to suit the market, C. They can afford it.
4. They look like they are going to update their console lineup @ E3 so they can raise the specs to compete better with the PS3 technically. Wifi/HDD size etc.
5. They haven't had a price cut recently in North America, yet they're still going strong so they have the chance to grab the Sub $299 market share before Sony gets there in North America.
6. Come Jasper RROD will be a distant memory.
7. They don't have to raise their sales by much to beat the PS3 week on week averages and if they win this years Holidays substantially the PS3 will never recover.

Well said. PS3 Fanboys just got pwned.

Also, if the PS3 manages to out sell the 360 they can thank their bluray player as it is the only reason people are buying the PS3 more this year. Most gamers are smart enough to understand the 360 has better games and only blind fanboys buy the PS3 on hope that the upcoming games will be amazing. By looking at the attach rates it is clearly evident that a lot of PS3 are just bought for the bluray(GTA4 attach rate for PS3 is low) and that means SONY loses out on the console just bought for bluray as they expect to gain their revenue from games bought(predominately). SONY is in big trouble. If RandC could barely sell a million I doubt any of these upcoming games will do better. Considering Resistance and Motorstorm were bundled just to save face and not be a dissappointment is pretty pathetic. MS on the other hand keeps increasing their profits, buying more exclusives, releasing new gaming innovations(x-mote), and releasing more content on XBLA(and gains more and more money from it too) while PS3 developers have to put millions more into development into a game that will have lower sales like how Gears of War > MGS4 in sales.

As of now SONY is in deep trouble(Hell) while MS is picking it up(Heaven).

 

 

I had to make an account for this troll.

1. Attach rate for PS3 Gta4 was higher then 360's -Doesn't mean anything. It means everything when he says systems were bought for blueray  Ok I see now the paragraphs are messy. Besides this Blu ray actually is important for some of the demographics that buy these systems. They are media whores to put it bluntly and the blu ray effect is more an enticer for system sales. I don't see much indication that many people buy the system "just for blu ray"

2. They weren't bundled to save face, they were bundled to push more hardware (ex. the massive demand for the MGS4 bundle, but i guess that was bundled to save face too? and didn't halo3 get bundled? lol) ??? I don't understand your logic here. His arguement was that bundled games suck and were bundled to save face they don't suck, its just that they wouldn't have sold as well without being bundled. R+C and RFOM1 are excellent games, worthy of any system. A function of userbase rather than quality. Besides this, it sets up RFOM for excellent sales in number 2.

3. MS is blowing money on buying some exclusives, sure they could work out in their favor, but at the same time, if the game fails, they lose money, its a double edged sword. They don't own many 1st parties so it is their strategy to buy exclusives instead. Its much more flexible, especially considering IPs such as Bioshock - Mass Effect - Gears of War which have paid off brilliantly. Yes, but for every good decision theres also a bad one. Do you think star ocean will pay off?  sorry, bad example. SO4 was never a bought exclusive, it was chance and circumstance more than anything.

4. Has the Xmote even been confirmed yet? And Ps3 already has some motion sensing which could easily be expanded on. Doesn't matter - I said they could do it better if they did, and persistant rumors indicate that there is something in the works. Sony could do better too? They already confirmed that they're working on a remote type motion sensing device.Point being, anyone COULD do ANYthing. True in that, however its that PC/Xbox360 link that provides the key advantages for Microsoft. No system has a bigger store of quality titles that rely on a Wii type interface than the PC. Its here where the PC out Wiis the Wii.

5. This one i just LOLed at. Are you seriously comparing sales of a game thats been out, to a game that was release a week ago and sold 1.4 million copies? Yawn... you actually think that MGS could hit 5 million sold? Especially considering its got a much larger target market both in consoles sold and genre penetration. I don't know, but how do you know it wont? What I do know is that it sold 500,000 more copies in week one then Gears1 did. Its a very hardcore franchise so that means its extremely front loaded. Im not denying that its an excellent game and an excellent representation of the series. My point is this: Xbox360 sales are > PS3 sales. Gears of War 2 has a larger target market from a genre point of view. So while I doubt it will be of the same quality, I find it hard to imagine that the game will be outsold because of these factors.

You're a blatent 360 fanboy. Enjoy your probably ban. Actually you're being just as rude. Pot/Kettle and the colour of Africans mean anything to you? Actually, I'm refuting his troll post with facts, not probabilities. Sorry, I thought you were targeting me... the whole 1,2,3 thing. I had already half replied when I realized so I posted anyway.

Please respond :) OK.

 

 

 

 

 



Tease.

Skeeuk on 22 June 2008

2008 is the year for ps3, things are looking very good.

i predict by mid 2009 ps3 will be ahead, with a stunning lineup this year never mind 2009, by end of 2008 once the sales figures come flooding through i feel ps3 will have only a short distance to go, to overtake 360.

imo that would be one of the great gaming achievments, a console that people said would fail and do a dreamcast, actually is doing the opposite



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PooperScooper on 22 June 2008

Squilliam - I understand that he is saying sales are inflated because of bundles and I agree they are, but the way this guy is making it seem is that these games got majority of sales through bundles... but really its only 10% far from 51%

Resistance 2.88 mil copies sold total
Without bundles - 2.60 mil sold and I was being generous here.

He is making it seem the game wouldn't even break a mil because they were bundled



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crumas2 on 22 June 2008

The PS3 isn't dominating in Japan. The Wii is dominating in Japan.



crumas2 on 22 June 2008
Skeeuk said:

2008 is the year for ps3, things are looking very good.

i predict by mid 2009 ps3 will be ahead, with a stunning lineup this year never mind 2009, by end of 2008 once the sales figures come flooding through i feel ps3 will have only a short distance to go, to overtake 360.

imo that would be one of the great gaming achievments, a console that people said would fail and do a dreamcast, actually is doing the opposite

 

I wouldn't say the PS3 is doing the "opposite" of the Dreamcast.  It would be on it's way to greater LTD sales than the Wii if that were the case.  Let's just say that Sony has turned a really bad situation into an acceptable situation.



Squilliam on 22 June 2008
PooperScooper said:

Squilliam - I understand that he is saying sales are inflated because of bundles and I agree they are, but the way this guy is making it seem is that these games got majority of sales through bundles... but really its only 10% far from 51%

Resistance 2.88 mil copies sold total
Without bundles - 2.60 mil sold and I was being generous here.

He is making it seem the game wouldn't even break a mil because they were bundled


Resistance, Ratchet and Heavenly Sword are Great, Very good, and good with potential for greatness in that order. Ratchet and Heavenly sword got help to hit 1million but resistance stands on its own and the bundling might make resistance into a series as big as gears if not bigger. Insomniac is almost top tier like Valve and Epic and Blizzard etc in my mind. So they CAN do it. P.S those games probably would have hit 1 million eventually, but not quite as fast for Ratchet and theres some doubt about Heavenly Sword but it could have done it eventually I think. Actually im going to go on a rant here - Heavenly sword totally pissed me off! I saw the greatness in that game - it was an 85-95% game that wasn't given due time and care. It wasn't until months after I played it that I realized that I actually loved the concept. Bastards!!!!

Tease.

Username2324 on 23 June 2008
Gamer4life said:
Squilliam said:
This thread = Blind fanboy.

The Xbox360 will outsell the PS3 2nd half of this year world wide.

May as well go against the grain eh?

Reasons?

1. Awesome games that cater to a different audience this year (JRPG/RPG) and not shooters. Different audience = different market to sell to = more sales.
2. They can make a price cut and still be profitiable.
3. They are in the next best position behind Nintendo to utilize motion controls. Because A, they have one foot firmly set in the mouse dominated PC world. B, They have launched 3 hardware SKUs so they can be flexible and modify their offerings to suit the market, C. They can afford it.
4. They look like they are going to update their console lineup @ E3 so they can raise the specs to compete better with the PS3 technically. Wifi/HDD size etc.
5. They haven't had a price cut recently in North America, yet they're still going strong so they have the chance to grab the Sub $299 market share before Sony gets there in North America.
6. Come Jasper RROD will be a distant memory.
7. They don't have to raise their sales by much to beat the PS3 week on week averages and if they win this years Holidays substantially the PS3 will never recover.

Well said. PS3 Fanboys just got pwned.

Also, if the PS3 manages to out sell the 360 they can thank their bluray player as it is the only reason people are buying the PS3 more this year. Most gamers are smart enough to understand the 360 has better games and only blind fanboys buy the PS3 on hope that the upcoming games will be amazing. By looking at the attach rates it is clearly evident that a lot of PS3 are just bought for the bluray(GTA4 attach rate for PS3 is low) and that means SONY loses out on the console just bought for bluray as they expect to gain their revenue from games bought(predominately). SONY is in big trouble. If RandC could barely sell a million I doubt any of these upcoming games will do better. Considering Resistance and Motorstorm were bundled just to save face and not be a dissappointment is pretty pathetic. MS on the other hand keeps increasing their profits, buying more exclusives, releasing new gaming innovations(x-mote), and releasing more content on XBLA(and gains more and more money from it too) while PS3 developers have to put millions more into development into a game that will have lower sales like how Gears of War > MGS4 in sales.

As of now SONY is in deep trouble(Hell) while MS is picking it up(Heaven).

 

You sir would be a blind fanboy, and you deserve the ban you got.

 



brute on 23 June 2008

i will wait until 2009 to see who will be ontop



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