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osed125 said:
Soundwave said:
osed125 said:
I really don't know what you expected. Aside of gaming forums (which obviously don't count) there was absolutely no hype for the game, thus the reason why there was no boost in hardware. Having a 2x increase in Japan didn't mean anything. 

September even with a price cut won't really be that much different really, mostly because the price cut comes so late into the month. October till the end of the year sales will be more meaningful. 


Well we've been sold this "all it needs is games!" line for months now, in Feburary it had no games really released and it sold 66k, this month it gets Pikmin 3 and Splinter Cell and can barely top 30k, virtually a zero month on month increase.

The question now really is becoming how much different this is than the GameCube if at all. Right now it's far worse than the GameCube, I think it will need that price cut + all those "bigger" games just to match up to what the GameCube was doing circa 2002/2003.

One game won't do anything, unless it's an extremely popular franchise (which Pikmin was not) and even with only one game, a boost can only last so long. February was different because the Wii U was still in the "launch window" period and people were still buying the launch games, that obviously wasn't going to last very long. If you thought Splinter Cell was going to boost the HW then you have bring yourself to the world of reality. 


Are we really that sure that 3D Mario (and not of the Mario 64/Galaxy variety that everyone seemed to want) and DKC are any more popular of a franchise over the NSMB series?

They better be at this rate, because Nintendo doesn't seem to have any other bullets in their gun left for the rest of the year other than a 10 year old GameCube game.

Pikmin 3 is probably the 4th or 5th "biggest" Wii U title of the year.



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Over 100K for tales of Xillia!! yes!! Great news!!



Oh my... Wii-U and PS Vita sales are depressing.



M.U.G.E.N said:
tbone51 said:



unless killzone pushes hardware i see WiiU outselling Vita sept

At least PSV is outselling the wiiu in EU/JP I guess. But both are selling like crap. I eagerly look forward to your wiiu sales threads in the future



Sure WiiU is doing terrible, but it'll do even worse, no price cut will help it out. Its Doomed beyond relief!!!!!

Soundwave said:
osed125 said:

One game won't do anything, unless it's an extremely popular franchise (which Pikmin was not) and even with only one game, a boost can only last so long. February was different because the Wii U was still in the "launch window" period and people were still buying the launch games, that obviously wasn't going to last very long. If you thought Splinter Cell was going to boost the HW then you have bring yourself to the world of reality. 


Are we really that sure that 3D Mario (and not of the Mario 64/Galaxy variety that everyone seemed to want) and DKC are any more popular of a franchise over the NSMB series?

They better be at this rate, because Nintendo doesn't seem to have any other bullets in their gun left for the rest of the year other than a 10 year old GameCube game.

Pikmin 3 is probably the 4th or 5th "biggest" Wii U title of the year.

They are not, but more games = more reasons to buy one. They may not have a "system seller" (very very few games enter this category), but simple having more popular games will mean more people will be interested. Also, if we go by the 3DS, we can see that at least 3D Mario (with Mario 3D Land) is very popular, we can't say for sure about DKC because the one on the 3DS is a port, but the original on the Wii sold very well. Gamers rants on gaming forums don't reflect sales, if you see all people on VGC complaining about 3D World (myself included) it won't reflect the game's real performance.

Pikmin 3 being the "biggest" Wii U tittle this year doesn't mean anything. Nintendo could have Kid Icarus, F-Zero, Waverace and Pikmin this year (imagining that Zelda, DKC and 3D World aren't releasing this year) and Pikmin 3 would be their biggest tittle, so in your context, a game being their biggest doesn't mean anything when it comes to sells.



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tbone51 said:


Sure WiiU is doing terrible, but it'll do even worse, no price cut will help it out. Its Doomed beyond relief!!!!!

Absolutely. Which is why I look forward to those threads from you :)



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Soundwave said:
osed125 said:
Soundwave said:
osed125 said:
I really don't know what you expected. Aside of gaming forums (which obviously don't count) there was absolutely no hype for the game, thus the reason why there was no boost in hardware. Having a 2x increase in Japan didn't mean anything. 

September even with a price cut won't really be that much different really, mostly because the price cut comes so late into the month. October till the end of the year sales will be more meaningful. 


Well we've been sold this "all it needs is games!" line for months now, in Feburary it had no games really released and it sold 66k, this month it gets Pikmin 3 and Splinter Cell and can barely top 30k, virtually a zero month on month increase.

The question now really is becoming how much different this is than the GameCube if at all. Right now it's far worse than the GameCube, I think it will need that price cut + all those "bigger" games just to match up to what the GameCube was doing circa 2002/2003.

One game won't do anything, unless it's an extremely popular franchise (which Pikmin was not) and even with only one game, a boost can only last so long. February was different because the Wii U was still in the "launch window" period and people were still buying the launch games, that obviously wasn't going to last very long. If you thought Splinter Cell was going to boost the HW then you have bring yourself to the world of reality. 


Are we really that sure that 3D Mario (and not of the Mario 64/Galaxy variety that everyone seemed to want) and DKC are any more popular of a franchise over the NSMB series?

They better be at this rate, because Nintendo doesn't seem to have any other bullets in their gun left for the rest of the year other than a 10 year old GameCube game.

Pikmin 3 is probably the 4th or 5th "biggest" Wii U title of the year.

Remember the Wii U had NSLU 100k this month also no increase so it had a total of 4 games release this month

no increase



Train wreck said:
Soundwave said:
osed125 said:

One game won't do anything, unless it's an extremely popular franchise (which Pikmin was not) and even with only one game, a boost can only last so long. February was different because the Wii U was still in the "launch window" period and people were still buying the launch games, that obviously wasn't going to last very long. If you thought Splinter Cell was going to boost the HW then you have bring yourself to the world of reality. 


Are we really that sure that 3D Mario (and not of the Mario 64/Galaxy variety that everyone seemed to want) and DKC are any more popular of a franchise over the NSMB series?

They better be at this rate, because Nintendo doesn't seem to have any other bullets in their gun left for the rest of the year other than a 10 year old GameCube game.

Pikmin 3 is probably the 4th or 5th "biggest" Wii U title of the year.

Remember the Wii U had NSLU 100k this month also no increase so it had a total of 4 games release this month

no increase

NSLU is a DLC of NSMBU with the option of buying a physical copy. Those 100k were digital sales of people who already had the game.



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M.U.G.E.N said:
tbone51 said:


Sure WiiU is doing terrible, but it'll do even worse, no price cut will help it out. Its Doomed beyond relief!!!!!

Absolutely. Which is why I look forward to those threads from you :)



my "how is it doing thread" going to make me cry! Looks like i'll make the sad thread in about a week (how much will wiiu sales go up in US)!!! Hey @ least i'll be bragging about MH4 sales

Train wreck said:
Soundwave said:
osed125 said:
Soundwave said:
osed125 said:
I really don't know what you expected. Aside of gaming forums (which obviously don't count) there was absolutely no hype for the game, thus the reason why there was no boost in hardware. Having a 2x increase in Japan didn't mean anything. 

September even with a price cut won't really be that much different really, mostly because the price cut comes so late into the month. October till the end of the year sales will be more meaningful. 


Well we've been sold this "all it needs is games!" line for months now, in Feburary it had no games really released and it sold 66k, this month it gets Pikmin 3 and Splinter Cell and can barely top 30k, virtually a zero month on month increase.

The question now really is becoming how much different this is than the GameCube if at all. Right now it's far worse than the GameCube, I think it will need that price cut + all those "bigger" games just to match up to what the GameCube was doing circa 2002/2003.

One game won't do anything, unless it's an extremely popular franchise (which Pikmin was not) and even with only one game, a boost can only last so long. February was different because the Wii U was still in the "launch window" period and people were still buying the launch games, that obviously wasn't going to last very long. If you thought Splinter Cell was going to boost the HW then you have bring yourself to the world of reality. 


Are we really that sure that 3D Mario (and not of the Mario 64/Galaxy variety that everyone seemed to want) and DKC are any more popular of a franchise over the NSMB series?

They better be at this rate, because Nintendo doesn't seem to have any other bullets in their gun left for the rest of the year other than a 10 year old GameCube game.

Pikmin 3 is probably the 4th or 5th "biggest" Wii U title of the year.

Remember the Wii U had NSLU 100k this month also no increase so it had a total of 4 games release this month

no increase



adding fuel? Seems your excited its doing bad... NSLU been DLC for over 2 months, but ok