They just dropped the fuckin' price by $50, and they already ARE going to win the holiday sales race, guaranteed. Price drop, Zelda bundle, new Mario, new DK, exclusive Sonic, Sonic & Mario Olympics, Wii Fit. Done and done.

If they dropped the price ANOTHER $50 any time soon, that would be asinine. They're already going to be losing money on systems sold for awhile because of this. There is literally no good reason for them to drop it even further right now. Dropping it by $50 looks smart. Dropping it by $100 would look desperate.

Sorry, but horribly dumb idea.

Taking the 3D effect out of the 3DS to make 2DS was simple because every 3DS game was already made playable in 2D.  No app on 3DS requires 3D either.  Taking the Gamepad away from the Wii U, on the other hand, completely breaks entire games AND the system's apps.  Lego City and other games that utilize the gamepad for more purposes than just off-tv play would be completely broken.  Rayman Legends would suddenly be no better than the PS3/360 versions.  Miiverse would suddenly become a chore to use.  TVii would be completely broken.  Google Street Maps would be diminished.  Panorama would be broken.  You are not talking about the even remotely the same thing when you compare going from 3DS to 2DS and taking the Gamepad away from the Wii U.

Wrong and wrong. Wii U's GPU is plenty powerful for what it is. It's a scaling issue these days, it is nothing CLOSE to the gap between Wii and PS3.

That's your opinion only. I expect more from something 7 years newer than an XBox 360, I expect it to absolutely demolish a 7-year-older piece of kit and that's obviously not the case.

Yep. I agree. With the price cut and games lineup the U is gonna take off. Hopefully nintendo has a good marketing plan ready for the holidays. Thats really all they need and this thing will basicly be relaunched and with smash and mario kart out next year it should keep on rolling. My only fear is can the keep the games comeing past what we already know about. They need a couple of strong years to build the base so they have to keep pumping out the games.

WiiU isn't in trouble. It's DOA... If it was going to become a mainstream success, it would have done so before the PS4 and XB1 arrived. The price cut only helps to give consumers a good/better/best pricing option at $300/$400/$500. Unless the little kids that still have the Wii beg for the WiiU, there won't be a good reason. Little kids don't frequent gaming websites to get to understand what the WiiU has to offer. They watch TV. I have all 3 of the current gen systems and have 4 kids(3,7,9,15). NOT 1 of them has even asked me about or brought up the WiiU. They all play on the gaming systems that we have and watch enough TV. The WiiU is DOA.

I know that my my situation is only one example. But, as I am into gaming and gaming industry stuff, I ask around. My sisters 2 kids=NO, My 6-7 friends kids=NO. The only things brought up has been PS4 and XB1.

I think that people that are die hard Nintendo fans have to remember one thing. The Wii sold 100 Million units, but didn't impress 100 million people with it's long term value. 50-60 million of those people were casuals that played Wii sports/fitness and maybe a dance game on the Wii. They didn't find a lot of compelling software for them after that. So, the purchase was like many items that are bought during a fad, quickly set aside and forgotten. Are they looking for another item from a company that sold them something that didn't work out for them? Probably not, as the ipad/tablet/smartphone has done that for them. Don't get me wrong, the Wii had plenty of great 1st party games, but that isn't what people bought the system for.

Wii U will win when it gets compelling software that takes advantage of the hardware and when PS4/Xbox One users buy their secondary console. Their won't be nearly as many PS4+Xbox One owners as there will be PS4+Wii U or Xbox One + Wii U owners.

Price won't matter. The Gamecube was cheap as sin and no one bought it. The reason the Wii-U is going to finish last is because it's just not a product core or casual people want. Core gamers want a PS4 like console and casuals want an iPad. The Wii-U is a product without an audience, just like Gamecube.

It should make Nintendo fans happy, but that's about it.

It needs content, nintendo needed to release a big hitter to help the wii-u when the ps4/x1 launch. If bayonetta 2/X launched this fall it would have done great at its current 300$ price let alone 250.

I think that's pretty much the main problem, but a lot of Nintendo fans don't want to acknowledge it.

PS4/XB1 serve the needs to the hardcore gamer demographic because Sony/MS basically tailor everything to the needs of this audience first and foremost. All the major marketing and pretty much most of the major titles on these platforms are tailored to core players. Nintendo just can't compete, one Bayonetta 2 or new Zelda every 5 years can't stem the tide.

Casuals have ditched Nintendo for smartphones/tablets, once they got a taste of $1 games (or even free ones) with a sexier lifestyle device that they use more often every day (phone or tablet), it was curtains for Nintendo and that audience. Gaming to them is more of an itch that they want to have scratched once in a while, not something they live or die by, and easy to play/cheap smartphone/tablet games scratch that itch.