Holly fuck cloud console warz again. If you read this thinking "yeah I kno, wtf is up with fanboys on the other side being so wrong", please understand you're thinking like a fanboy.
I'm out.
Mmmfishtacos said:
Maybe the same reasoning many people don't stay out of Sony threads when they should? And that's just local banter in that thread you pulled it from; I don't find myself often leaving comments like LOL unless it's just so stupid that’s all it really deserves. I also don't find you going around talking to other members in the way you are to me right now that deserve it way more. I usually really just don't give a shit, until Sony is dragged in one way or another, Anytime anyone has ever said, Sony can't do this or that they are proven wrong time and time again. The shit gets old, and till the mods start doing what they should be doing around here, then things will never get better between the two groups. |
Two wrongs does not make a right. Im not condoning either side as you are right it is annoying regardless of who or what company they support.
The rule I posted below I will not say that you go under this but this right now in my opinion is the biggest rule that mods do nothing about. And I can name several users from all three sides that does this and nothing is done about them.
VGC Rule
Machiavellian said:
You probably would never even know if you were close to a datacenter. its not like they advertise it in big letters. You know dedicated servers does not somehow make your ping time lower or lag free experience. Pings are determined by how many hops it take for your PS3 to the server. In other words you can connect to one server and you experience terrible lag and ping times and then another which is perfect. I am not sure how long you have been playing MP games but I have been playing them since Dwango. This was way back in the day when you felt proud you had a 2400 baud modem. What I am saying is that your Quality of service might not be experience with every user that plays MP on Sony servers and dedicated servers is not a magic bullet for reducing lag and high pings. |
And it also depends on your own internet service on how good of a ping you get, Where I currently live on my old internet I’d get a ping of 200 now that I’ve got somewhat better internet I can get a ping of 90-130 which is still quite high, but that’s pinging the same server. When I lived with better internet I’d get really good pings and never had a problem playing games unless it was per to per, like cod or something like that. So even if you live two blocks away from the server you could get bad ping if your internet net sucks. Azure isn't going to be the greatest experience for everyone, besides if you playing someone across the country what's the chance you're going to be hitting the sever closes to you? Maybe you're on the one closes to him. Now what happens if you get thrown in the mix with people in another country? Do they cut that out?
What happens if Sony lets you run your own sever? Like folding at home, but instead of cloud computing you just turn it into a server when you’re not using it. Hell I’d buy a second ps4 just for that.
First off everybody needs to calm down. Y’all going to make me zappy, and nobody wants that.
Now here look at this kitten and take a deep breath. Isn’t it a cute little kitten? Doesn’t everything feel better, ok, now back to the topic.

I pointing out that Sony bought Everquest a long time ago. They have experience running a cloud gaming system. How anyone took that as an insult is beyond me.
I was not bashing Gaiki or Azure, I was bashing the fans that say one will not work, but praise how the other will. If latency will kill one platform, it will kill both. If one will work, then it is silly to say the other will not. It is tedious when someone claims one is just silly PR but the other will give them hours of pleasure. They are not the same, but the are analogous.
I think it's awesome that Microsoft is investing so much in the future of gaming and entertainment. I know some people do not like this. As gaming is moving from an isolated box, to a larger connected experience. But I think that's their play, from a product to more of a service.


| Mmmfishtacos said: And it also depends on your own internet service on how good of a ping you get, Where I currently live on my old internet I’d get a ping of 200 now that I’ve got somewhat better internet I can get a ping of 90-130 which is still quite high, but that’s pinging the same server. When I lived with better internet I’d get really good pings and never had a problem playing games unless it was per to per, like cod or something like that. So even if you live two blocks away from the server you could get bad ping if your internet net sucks. Azure isn't going to be the greatest experience for everyone, besides if you playing someone across the country what's the chance you're going to be hitting the sever closes to you? Maybe you're on the one closes to him. Now what happens if you get thrown in the mix with people in another country? Do they cut that out?
What happens if Sony lets you run your own sever? Like folding at home, but instead of cloud computing you just turn it into a server when you’re not using it. Hell I’d buy a second ps4 just for that. |
This is where the match making servers come into play. Spin up server and then match people to that servers with the highest ping. This is what the CDO developers stated they were doing.
As for Sony letting you run your own server, that could be a good move for them. It could give them something unique that MS is not doing and it could balance the cost of renting servers from a company like rackspace.
Machiavellian said:
This is where the match making servers come into play. Spin up server and then match people to that servers with the highest ping. This is what the CDO developers stated they were doing. As for Sony letting you run your own server, that could be a good move for them. It could give them something unique that MS is not doing and it could balance the cost of renting servers from a company like rackspace. |
Yeah, i get that. That's what they would do now anyway. If i have a better ping to the "florida server" thats where i'll play, but say i want to play with my friend in FL, TX and Cali im in OK. Then what happens then? Add is skill based Match making, and reputation then things look even more bleak for their claim of getting the best ping. And it quite possible with my interent that i'll still have a laggy game.
BTW, my whole point is just staying don't count sony out on Anything, there's always more than one way to skin a cat. People that say they can't do this and that are just being silly and need to pull their head out of the sand.


Mmmfishtacos said:
Yeah, i get that. That's what they would do now anyway. If i have a better ping to the "florida server" thats where i'll play, but say i want to play with my friend in FL, TX and Cali im in OK. Then what happens then? Add is skill based Match making, and reputation then things look even more bleak for their claim of getting the best ping. And it quite possible with my interent that i'll still have a laggy game. BTW, my whole point is just staying don't count sony out on Anything, there's always more than one way to skin a cat. People that say they can't do this and that are just being silly and need to pull their head out of the sand. |
Opps that should be with the lowest ping lol. If MS matched people with the highest ping there would be a complete shit storm over that.
If you are playing with your friends, then the server would spin up where all of you had the lowest ping instead of a location closest to you. This tech is out there now and I believe will be more prevalent within the gaming space as time goes on.
Actually I am not counting Sony out of anything. This is the great thing about competition is that each company have unique strengths and strategy. Sony can be easily working on deals MS never thought of and so can MS. What I am stating is that there will be things that neither company can replicated or not do it easily. MS has the brute force power to throw money and servers around which Sony really cannot match. Its an advantage and good business for MS to leverage this strength. Sony also have Strengths they will bring to bear on the market as well. Even Gaikai does things that MS cannot easily replicate without ponying up a lot of cash.
The only thing I am trying to do is show people you cannot dismiss MS cloud initiative within the gaming space. None if this technology is new, just that its purpose is new. I actually want to see Sony response to MS dedicated server iniative and if they will take on more cost to counter or will they just bring out something MS has not thought of to gain developer and consumer mindshare.