People seem to forget that Sony got into 'cloud gaming' years ago when they bought Everquest. And it cracks me up that the same one that say it will never work for the Xbox One, talk about how great Gaihkai will be. Which is much more sensitive to latency.

What this shows me, that much like having Bill Gates personally introduce the first Xbox, is that Microsoft is very serious about putting it resources and muscles behind the Xbox One. The dedicated servers, possible per-rendering of light and stuff, will make a great and powerful service.

It is a great long term strategy to provide an excellent service.

It's neat, but Sony basically came out and said that Developers already have access to similar tools on the PS4 if they want to use them in development, they just aren't spinning "THE POWER OF TEH CLOUDZ" like Microsoft. Sony is putting it's focus on Gaikai, a much more ambitious use of "The Cloud" IMO. Also, I really hate the term The Cloud. 

Please do not start flaming/derailing now; Gaikai is a completly different thing...

The term cloud is correctly used by Microsoft. Sony may say whatever they want about having the possbility for developpers to use it or not, the reality is that for cloud infrastructure to power that kind of demand (millions of consoles) in VCPUs is just completly out of reach for Sony. Microsoft Azure and Amazon S3  took YEARS to build datacenter and put in place the infratructure. You can pretend to ignore that fact but just bing (or google I guess) for Azure/S3 datacenters, those are huge beasts and only MS/Amazon can actually afford to offer that right now.

Now that being said, Sony is right when they are saying that developpers can use it even from the Playstation 4, they can; but they need to use either Amazon S3 or Azure... Even Apple is using Azure/S3 for their iCloud...

well in the case of the cloud/server or whatever word you want to put on it... tools is the smallest issue... the infrastructure is what is relevant here.... and sony doesn't and will never have the infrastructure MS has... gaikai or not and honnestly I'd rather have the spinned cloud marketing BS MS has right here right now ready to rumble than anything gaikai for games I'll have to pay to have a shitty 720p game streamed with bad latency when I can buy most of the games for cheap online with a cheap PS3....

In MS case its all of them

SaaS - Software as a service.  This is where Orleans come into play.  Its a development platform for creating distributed applications that can be replicated amoung thousand of servers.  Developers can have code stored within MS cloud.  Client machine request data can be as simple as executing a method which calls to the cloud to process data.  Cloud uses thousands of servers to process data and sends it back to client machine.  Since MS hs 300,000 Servers around the world, the closes server sends the results back to the client thus reducing lag.  Also MS provide storage and other Software like SQL.

PaaS Platform as a Service.  Basically a bunch of VMs and hypervisors that business can use to run their software.  Think of this as dedicated servers that MS can spin up for Titanfall or COD or any developer making games on the X1.  

IaaS - Infrastructure as a service.  Orleans play into this one as well since its an infrastructure and development environment to hosted solutions.

So if you are thinking about a total cloud solution then MS covers everything within Azure and Orleans.  Its something they have been actually building towards and have put in a lot of investment.  This is one of the reason Sony just cannot do at a flick of a switch  because the investment in software and hardware is no small change.  At Some point Sony will have their own infrastructure but this is not something that can be done within a few months, it will probably take 2 to 3 years unless they can purchase themselves there.

It's not about haters on the whole (though some people are on the internet unfortunately).. unfortunately you are doing the exact same thing as the haters - hating back, it annoys you so much that you also stand defending it as much as they are attacking it, but the result is the same... standstill but also lack of clarity.

Well... Yes, hating back is as bad. Now there is a difference between hating back and hating for wrong reasons.
Look at this thread, it was okay until Necromunda came in and started to talk about Gaikai...

I mean, just by using Bing/Google you can easily understand that Gaikai and what Microsoft is offering with Azure are two completly different things...
But just because they both have the Cloud in comon people (like Necromunda) come in Microsoft threads and spread hates toward something they actually do not understand...

Hating back is understandable, no?

People haven't forgotten that Sony got into cloud gaming years ago, how is that even relevant? Who said cloud won't work for the Xbox One? I don't think you actually understand why people are mocking the cloud, it's not because it's useless (which it isn't at all) or that it's inferior to Gaikai (which it also isn't), it's because Microsoft were overhyping it, making false promises about its capabilities and even implying that it will negate the difference in power between the Xbox One and PS4. Do you have any proof that Gaikai will have a significantly larger latency than Azure?

I'd like you to find one example of somebody that has said that cloud will never work for Xbox One and that Gaikai will be great, let alone another 10 examples needed to actually justify you kicking up a fuss about it.

Anyway. That was a really good video, he explained how he was using the cloud clearly and honestly.

last time I checked it's the MS forum... I don't have to defend anything here I just state facts on my console of choice.... I don't hate back.... gaikai is a poor solution considering you have to pay for the games.... and it has nothing on MS cloud infra....
those are facts... I would love to see a streaming solution on XB1 too but if I have to pay for the games and get such a bad service.... it won't be worth it just as much....
but if Sony pulls it off... good for them i'll be jealous some... but i will still not compare to what MS cloud is putting on the table... and that is unreachable by Sony alone...
this is not hate it's all facts.... my tone is the wrong one.... but I'm not the one invading here... I'm at home...

No it isn't,  you should have let the comment go. You're no better than what you're complaining about.

When you understand that size is the only advantage MS has over Sony then it will be better for everyone. All the features, aside from drivatar (even that could be done) have and are being done now without MS’s cloud. You need to understand what’s PR bullshit and what isn't. And nothing is out of reach by the way. Does it really matter if they set up a deal with Google or amazon or Rackspace (like they already have) at the end of the day, the end user experience will be unnoticed by the majority of the population.