This I do not understand your logic.  How can the end user experience be the same if Sony does not have enough servers to serve up content locally to a client machine.  If you Live in Ohio but the closes server is in Detroit, then thee hops between your client machine and that server could be significant.  This will produce a lot of lag and effect your ping times if you were playing a MP game.  A user experience is directly related to the proxmity of a server within the area that person connects.  Another area where you are wrong is the type of server setup.  A lot of software is needed to properly route connections between on client machien and another.  This stuff isn't magically created but has to be develop for.  Sometimes the investment in the software is just as significant than the hardware side.

When you talk about Sony 1st party games running smooth on Sony servers exactly how many players are on those servers. How many games did Sony run at any one time.  Could you combine all of Sony MP 1st party games and their players and would it equal to a game like COD .  The scale you are talking about just does not compute.  Its to small to actually be some type of advantage for Sony.  As been stated, we are not talking about Sony 1st party games we are stating can Sony match MS in offering dedicated servers to everyone that creates a game on the X1.  The scope of such an offer is huge.

One thing you are not seeing is that the 14 billion dollar investment and why its important.  Its scale.  Its one thing to just host your own games, its another to host every game that comes out on your platform.  This is an advantage that MS can leverage for developers to use and it separates XBL from PSN if MS can get every developer to use it.  Match such scale will require a lot of money and there is no way around it.  This is why you are not getting it.  The reason MS can offer dedicated servers and cloud computing to everyone that develops for the X1 is because that 14 Billion invested brings in profit.  Having those datacenters bring in money which means MS can then incur a cost to supply other parts of the business.  If MS only had a bunch of servers and they were used for providing dedicated servers then it would be a cost, serving up 300,000 servers would be a huge cost if those servers was not doing more than being hosted for MP games.  Having an infrastructure like Azure to spin up a server reduce cost because a server is not taking up resources if not being used.  

No dude. I mean Gaikai is using the cloud, Forza is using the cloud, multiplayer is using the cloud, storage is using the cloud, games are offloading graphics to the cloud, etc. All of these are done with the cloud, but they are worlds apart and refer to completely different tech. People usually just jumble the cloud into a singular thing which screws up conversations.

The cloud is a lot like "a building". Just replace "teh cloud" with a building in every sentence, and you can understand what I'm meaning.

I mean Gaikai is housed in a building, Forza is being developed in a building, multiplayer is played inside a building, storage is in a building, games are sold from a building. All of these are done in a building, but they are worlds apart and refer to completely different places.

I can tell you havn't played many Sony first party games. They run smooth. I'd expect the same for all the games. 

Is that smooth for you or are you talking for everyone.  You know there is a difference in what you experience than millions of other people around the world.

I dont even have to read your comments anymore to know what is going to be said.  

I hope you realize that you are argueing about things that you have yet to see.  Things that none of us really know where things will be in the coming years.  One thing that everybody usually will agree with is that the cloud does offer advantages.  Maybe not ENDLESS advantages, but they are there.  This is very early to have such arguments but if Sony decides to invest in cloud features in the future.  Or if 3rd parties start getting cloud servers on PS4 this means that your entire argument has been wrong.  I already think you dont have a good track record on VGC but my bet is on 3rd parties wanting the cloud on PS4 as well.  And instead of looking at this as a bad thing, maybe it will be a good thing.

Maybe wait it out and see if the cloud offers good servers and features before coming to shout buzzwords.  And idk, mabe comment about the actual video.

I dont think you know anything about my track record or what i actually think about the cloud. 

Seeing as you seem to have an agenda often i do notice you.  Many times leaving simple comments like

"lol" 

and then just moving on.  or how about a recent commend like

"Cloudz Powaz" 

One thing people will notice with you is you dont like MSFT.  When you do enter a MSFT thread it is usally with an agenda.  Why you dont just ignore MSFT thread i will not know.

Dont think i've ever lived next to a data center. I've never heard anyone say anything about lag in a sony game. I know it's hard to beilved but you dont have to be rignt next to the thing in order to have a good time and run lag free.