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Well, finally, all my complaints about XBOne (well except the stupid name) are now dealt with..

Still going PS4/WiiU, I'll get a One end of the gen. I'm unconvinced that Titanfall will stay exclusive, that MS will continue strong support, and I like PS4/WiiU better because they get a boadload more Japanese exclusives.



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after reading through everything, i have to be honest. microsoft just plain lied. they knew xbox one can function without kinect but they told everyone you need it. they tried to trick everyone.

what they're going to do now is make their first party game developers to incooperate kinect into their games to force people to use/buy a kinect.



Great news here for those that don't care for Kinect I guess. Doesn't really change anything for me.

Even if they split the sku's and did a kinectless version for $399 or less, I am sticking with the bundle version.

Kinect has its uses, and I have some hope they can turn it into a thing this gen. Even if it is a complete failure it still if nothing else makes dance games much better without the need to hold a remote.



DarthVolod said:

Great news here for those that don't care for Kinect I guess. Doesn't really change anything for me.

Even if they split the sku's and did a kinectless version for $399 or less, I am sticking with the bundle version.

Kinect has its uses, and I have some hope they can turn it into a thing this gen. Even if it is a complete failure it still if nothing else makes dance games much better without the need to hold a remote.

Good luck with that hope. They'll get more out of the smart glass than they did with Kinect. :)



S.T.A.G.E. said:
Machiavellian said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Machiavellian said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Machiavellian said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:




 I understand your logic but there is a flaw.  At the time when MS made all of these nice statements, never was it stated that they could not be reversed.  Its still the same thing.  MS followed one vision and it was flawed so they they reversed those decisions.  In some steps they had to drop everything and go back to square one.  Others they had to work out removing certain aspect of a product to fit the new direction.  This does not make any statements a lie.  It would be a lie if MS continue to follow a flawed plan and told everyone that this is neccessary.  That would be considered a lie.  Any decision can be reversed if you are willing to pay the price for it.  You can believe that all the reversals MS has made cost a ton of money.

You want to compare something that I consider a lie.  When you tell people a feature is not needed, last gen and you have better tech all the while you did not implement the tech because you did not pay a license fee for it.  Once the license fee was settled, your next iteration of a product had that obsolete feature in it.  Guess what product that was.

Of course MS was saying their policies and DRM could not just be reversed. Watch Angry Joe E3 edition where he speaks to Major Nelson and calls him out saying MS could take back the ridiculous policies and Nelson told him they couldnt. Basically made him look like an ass and then soon after they dropped the DRM and many policies one after the other. Angry Joe put on a video saying, "I told you so".  

Major Nelson is PR, he will lie if he has to. The best thing he should've said was no comment regarding policies. In specific instances there were lies, there was confusion because too many MS employees were saying different things and confusing press and lastly they eventually had to pull the 180. 

I did watch Angry Joe and how did MS reverse.  They had to drop everything.  I am sure in Major Nelson mind, he probably didn't think MS would actually do it because of cost.  No, they could not just flip a switch and make the changes happen.  MS had to drop everythign they invested into for years and start from scratch.  What I see is a reboot not a one 180.  People were wondering why MS just dropped everything and the reason because such changes cannot be made with a flip of a switch you have to reboot the whole program.  I am sure this was not some off the wall decision but something that cost MS millions.  Somebody put their neck on the line when they made it.  Probably was Don Matt just before he left because it would not cost him anything.  

This is why  see the whole situation different.  I see MS big wigs actually understanding that their course they were going was wrong and someone had the balls to drop the whole thing and restart.  Such changes cost millions, infrastructure and plannig all wasted.  In the end, they must have gotten in a room, looked at the feedback from customers and developers and decided to make wholesale changes to how they do business.

I am not sure if you guys have ever worked for a multi-national billion dollar company but such course changes in such a short period of time does not happen a lot.  Through my career, I have worked at MS in the early 90s,  I have worked for IBM, and much smaller software companies.  I work for a smaller software company now and we compete with MS and IBM all the time.  One of the benefits of working for smaller companies is that we can make big changes much quicker than the big boys and win accounts because of it.



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KingdomHeartsFan said:

Glad they changed that, if I get a X1 the kinect isn't leaving the box.

or in future they may sell it w/o Kinect to cut pricing



ktay95 said:
KingdomHeartsFan said:

Glad they changed that, if I get a X1 the kinect isn't leaving the box.

or in future they may sell it w/o Kinect to cut pricing


Exactly why they are doing it in the first place.



I wouldn't be surprised if they announce a kinectless Xbox at gamescom for 399. Maybe they even rename it to Xbox 4 or Xbox One Eighty. :P

At least the console is now a real option if some megaton exclusive comes out (like Shenmue 3 or something) or if 3rd party titles look better on it by some miracle... By now, I have little to complain about Xbox. Sure, it has a power brick, the controller uses batteries, but that would be nitpicking. Give me the right games and I'm in.



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
DarthVolod said:

Great news here for those that don't care for Kinect I guess. Doesn't really change anything for me.

Even if they split the sku's and did a kinectless version for $399 or less, I am sticking with the bundle version.

Kinect has its uses, and I have some hope they can turn it into a thing this gen. Even if it is a complete failure it still if nothing else makes dance games much better without the need to hold a remote.

Good luck with that hope. They'll get more out of the smart glass than they did with Kinect. :)

Perhaps ... at least they will get more out of it than Sony will out of the Playstation 4 "I can't believe it's not Kinect" Camera.... I kid I kid relax you had it coming for that  : )

Smart glass may actually become a thing though with them finally attempting to put it into games in a meaningful way ... at least with Deadrising 3 if nothing else. It could just end up being something they try at launch and abandon though.

 



DarthVolod said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DarthVolod said:

Great news here for those that don't care for Kinect I guess. Doesn't really change anything for me.

Even if they split the sku's and did a kinectless version for $399 or less, I am sticking with the bundle version.

Kinect has its uses, and I have some hope they can turn it into a thing this gen. Even if it is a complete failure it still if nothing else makes dance games much better without the need to hold a remote.

Good luck with that hope. They'll get more out of the smart glass than they did with Kinect. :)

Perhaps ... at least they will get more out of it than Sony will out of the Playstation 4 "I can't believe it's not Kinect" Camera.... I kid I kid relax you had it coming for that  : )

Smart glass may actually become a thing though with them finally attempting to put it into games in a meaningful way ... at least with Deadrising 3 if nothing else. It could just end up being something they try at launch and abandon though.

 


Sonys already gotten more out of the move/eyetoy combo than MS has ever done with the Kinect, their biggest issue is that their support sucks terribly. The Eyetoy is the predecessor to Kinect in the gaming industry for motion gaming and Sony ruled out that the camera by itself  could not do very much except for read the body but not take it into a 3D realm and properly control the character through the world they are in. This is why after they created the Eyetoy R&D worked on the Move in 2004.

As for the Smart Glass, yeah, its seems everyones investing heavily into tablets. Nintendo has already put it in their controller, Sony has their own tablet and MS has their and is working as a third party on other brands items. Dead Rising isn't really a reliable franchise to air the amazing nature of the Smart Glass, but its a start. The franchise is ok, but nothing major. If they can use the Smart Glass or the Kinect to make the game more than it is instead of easier that will give the franchise a totally different spirit because while its a good game it can get quite repetitive.