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walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
78 million 360 users seem to have no problem with batteries, same goes to uncounted pc-gamers who bought the controller. But it's a legit argument in wars, of course. I will keep on using my eneloops.

And a percentage of those 360 gamers who are tired of being on the nickle and dime train could help explain the preorder numbers.


Right, that's why still ~80k units get bought every week - because nobody wants to use batteries! Man, all the exclusive-talk, better games, better online, ps+, all arguments are crap. It's them batteries that pushed Sony to 2nd place.

mockery doesn't foster good discussion. Batteries are only one of a handful of nickle and diming examples.
80k a week isn't that much considering it's being outsold by 50% every week.
MS is only selling 80k per week because of a strong foundation they've created. Friend userbase, casuals, content, etc. The xbox360 as it currently is, is quite a good system; especially at 140$ NEW which is almost half the price of a ps3 you can really see the value and how it's managing to sell so many still.

Next gen is coming pretty rapidly though. And all that is going to be gone. No initial userbase, no casual userbase (both due to just the realities of a console release), only launch lineup, and no price advantage.

When next gen hits and you see how much of a disadvantage ms is up against, you will see that my points are valid.
People don't like to foot the bill, especially now that sony has caught up quite a bit. Almost all the advantages are gone, or are undiscernably different.



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theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:
walsufnir said:
78 million 360 users seem to have no problem with batteries, same goes to uncounted pc-gamers who bought the controller. But it's a legit argument in wars, of course. I will keep on using my eneloops.

And a percentage of those 360 gamers who are tired of being on the nickle and dime train could help explain the preorder numbers.


Right, that's why still ~80k units get bought every week - because nobody wants to use batteries! Man, all the exclusive-talk, better games, better online, ps+, all arguments are crap. It's them batteries that pushed Sony to 2nd place.

mockery doesn't foster good discussion. Batteries are only one of a handful of nickle and diming examples.
80k a week isn't that much considering it's being outsold by 50% every week.
MS is only selling 80k per week because of a strong foundation they've created. Friend userbase, casuals, content, etc. The xbox360 as it currently is, is quite a good system; especially at 140$ NEW which is almost half the price of a ps3 you can really see the value and how it's managing to sell so many still.

Next gen is coming pretty rapidly though. And all that is going to be gone. No initial userbase, no casual userbase (both due to just the realities of a console release), only launch lineup, and no price advantage.

When next gen hits and you see how much of a disadvantage ms is up against, you will see that my points are valid.
People don't like to foot the bill, especially now that sony has caught up quite a bit. Almost all the advantages are gone, or are undiscernably different.


80k aren't good for a system which is lacking exclusives, has a controller with batteries and for a system which was launched in 2005 is quite good, in my opinion.

And if all the advantages 360 had arre not present next gen *and* this will result in what you wish we still have yet to see. The road to success has a lot of parameters many can't see. Who would've thought the Wii would be such a success before its release?

Your points are only valid for you. I personally don't bother using eneloops and won't if I buy Xbone - I will buy it because of the games.



It's no longer the 90's, just put a rechargeable battery into your controller!



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S.T.A.G.E. said:
HipHopGodd said:
No matter what the issue fans of either console will make it bait in the fanboy wars. The fact MS fans are going to defend this is pretty bad because (even though it's not a big deal) it's clear that built in batteries are much better. The fact that Sony fans are doing to use this as an example of an MS cash grab just makes them look all the more petty. I'll admit, I'm a PS3 fan but I've never been involved in fanboy bickering because the financial success of the consoles don't directly benefit me. What exactly is being accomplished by bashing or defending the use of AA batteries in a game controller?


When Microsoft sees that Sony gives their fans a headset instead of making them buy it as yet another tacked on purchase, they decide to give them a very nice looking headset for free. A much better headset than Sony, I might add. Without the influence of Sony do you know how many tacked on purchases MS would've forced upon their gamers? 

You might have missed it but MS has a console out right now called an Xbox 360 and it comes with a headset.



theprof00 said:
DarthVolod said:

Wow the trolls are having a field day. Seriously guys, it is just batteries, and we all knew it was coming with a set anyways. This has never been a problem with 360 controllers, and, as someone else mentioned, it can actually be a nice thing in the event the controller battery goes. I have had 4 PS3 controllers since launch. Three have worked fine, but one had an issue with charging ... thankfully it was still within 30 days to return.

I figured most people in 2013 have rechargeable AA's since most TV remotes still use them ... if not you can buy an offbrand charge kit for the controller for like 10-15 dollars ... oh the humanity.

Also, has anyone confirmed whether or not 360 rechargeable packs can fit into Xbox One contollers?

Just ask yourself something, "What would make MS more money".

You can seriously ask yourself this for virtually any question available. I'm still stunned they included a headset.


Included headset has always been something that MS has done (at least with the premium/elite version of each 360 system). I believe PS4 will mark the first time that Sony will have bundled a headset with their system. Nintendo is yet to do this.

I would have been surprised if MS did not include a headset.



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Nice to hear that the XB1 controllers still use AA batteries. I can use the same rechargeable batteries that I use with my 360/Wii controllers. Makes them very easy to replace/swap out if you want to keep playing wirelessly. Much better than having to worry about rechargeable batteries that are difficult to replace.




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DarthVolod said:
theprof00 said:
DarthVolod said:

Wow the trolls are having a field day. Seriously guys, it is just batteries, and we all knew it was coming with a set anyways. This has never been a problem with 360 controllers, and, as someone else mentioned, it can actually be a nice thing in the event the controller battery goes. I have had 4 PS3 controllers since launch. Three have worked fine, but one had an issue with charging ... thankfully it was still within 30 days to return.

I figured most people in 2013 have rechargeable AA's since most TV remotes still use them ... if not you can buy an offbrand charge kit for the controller for like 10-15 dollars ... oh the humanity.

Also, has anyone confirmed whether or not 360 rechargeable packs can fit into Xbox One contollers?

Just ask yourself something, "What would make MS more money".

You can seriously ask yourself this for virtually any question available. I'm still stunned they included a headset.


Included headset has always been something that MS has done (at least with the premium/elite version of each 360 system). I believe PS4 will mark the first time that Sony will have bundled a headset with their system. Nintendo is yet to do this.

I would have been surprised if MS did not include a headset.

Perhaps you completely missed that they weren't actually going to until "Sony fanboys" complained there wasn't one.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-one-does-not-include-headset-6410685



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walsufnir said:
theprof00 said:

mockery doesn't foster good discussion. Batteries are only one of a handful of nickle and diming examples.
80k a week isn't that much considering it's being outsold by 50% every week.
MS is only selling 80k per week because of a strong foundation they've created. Friend userbase, casuals, content, etc. The xbox360 as it currently is, is quite a good system; especially at 140$ NEW which is almost half the price of a ps3 you can really see the value and how it's managing to sell so many still.

Next gen is coming pretty rapidly though. And all that is going to be gone. No initial userbase, no casual userbase (both due to just the realities of a console release), only launch lineup, and no price advantage.

When next gen hits and you see how much of a disadvantage ms is up against, you will see that my points are valid.
People don't like to foot the bill, especially now that sony has caught up quite a bit. Almost all the advantages are gone, or are undiscernably different.


80k aren't good for a system which is lacking exclusives, has a controller with batteries and for a system which was launched in 2005 is quite good, in my opinion.

And if all the advantages 360 had arre not present next gen *and* this will result in what you wish we still have yet to see. The road to success has a lot of parameters many can't see. Who would've thought the Wii would be such a success before its release?

Your points are only valid for you. I personally don't bother using eneloops and won't if I buy Xbone - I will buy it because of the games.

Look at the question from another angle.
If ps3 is outselling xbox360 by 50%, and the ps3 costs 79% more expensive than the 360, how much would the ps3 be outselling the 360 at the same price. And in that same vein, how many consoles would the 360 be selling?

It comes down to simple math really.
The price and the content is equal to demand.

The 360 has a lower price, and the xbox360 library, and A, B, and C.
That equals X demand, say for example, 80k per week.

The ps3 has a higher price, and the ps3 library, and D, E, and F.
That equals Y demand,l say for example, 120k per week.

It's not hard to see that there is obviously something causing a difference between 80 and 120k per week. All you have to do is look at what factors are going into it.

One could say some of those variables are "value", "social strength", "marketing", "dominance", "brand".
We know that "age" is not one of them, because launch aligned we already know the ps3 is higher.

What I CAN do, is look at what went into that 80k.
Library, Friend circle, replacements from very large userbase, special edition models, price point.
Then I can take those and say, "of these factors, which ones are a present in the xbox one".
The answer is none of them.

I could then look at the aforementioned variables as well:
Value? Nope, they're still saving themselves a fraction of a dollar by making you pay 8 dollars for your own batteries...among other cut hardware.
Social Strength? Microsoft had to change their strategy completely because of fan consumer apathy and criticism.
Marketing? Microsoft themselves admit to an image problem.
Special editions? Not yet.
Price Point? 100$ more expensive than the competitor.

 

It's not that I WISH to see xbox1 fail. It's that they are already failing, and I'm providing you the context to help you understand. Conversely, your argument is, "I don't believe you because you're a fanboy, so I won't look at the evidence for myself". Not the best position to be in if you want to be pointing fingers.

PS: I'm sure you'll read this and say, "fine, whatever, what has this got to do with batteries though".
I assure you, it has everything to do with batteries. Batteries are a microcosm of the entire platform. That's why "batteries" is so important, because the console itself can be boiled down very succinctly to one simple word.

the xb1 = batteries