1) The evidence was pretty clear in showing that it was self-defence.
2) This should never have been a big media story.
3) The President should not have got involved.
4) This has nothing to do with race.

If there were doubts, it was right to do a trial, then in the trial they established it was self defence and it was the right thing to absolve him. There isn't contradiction, the trial was necessary to solve doubts, once they were solved in favour of the accused, absoluton was the only right thing to do, but those doubts had to be solved first. Actually the wrong thing was to fill the case with racial implications, putting a pressure that could have unjustly damaged an innocent.

So many people out there on both sides believing they have a justified opinion on this, despite not knowing the full set of evidence. It's actually quite hilarious. By the way, courts do not "prove people innocent", they prove people not guilty based on the evidence presented by both sides, and by the sounds of things, both sides were pretty damn sketchy.

I have to agree, when it comes to these cases.

Both of them were at fault in the situation... but one is a free man with a gun and one is a dead kid.

I think he's pretty clear on the fact that guns kill people after he took a guy's life with one. Now that his life has been turned upside down for the past year and a half, hating Zimmerman has become a national pastime for about half of the population, and he and his family will have to look over their shoulders for the rest of their days, I'm not sure what else you think should happen to him at this point given the lack of evidence.

And the bolded is race-baiting that is beneath even you...

... is what I'd say, but I seem to remember you insinuating that something really should be happening to kowenicki for being a "class traitor", whatever the fuck that is, so I guess I'm not that surprised.

Quite the contrary, though. If Zimmerman were black rather than mestizo (with a "white" sounding name), this would never have been a national news story.

Expected.

First of all the case against him wasn't that strong without the media hype from MSNBC and the like, and it was evident it was going to boil down to self-defense, stand your ground laws (I haven't seen what the juror alleged, but yeah). Secondly the prosecution was absolutely shitty. It's almost like they grabbed people out from VGChartz to make it up.

i was talking aboutthe part of following him (which isnt a crime), the evidence points to zimmerman ceasing persueing martin, and then martin hiding and attacking zimmerman.

and ill admit a misread the last part, i thought you said he just shot him, i didnt notice the part about even in self defense. but that kinda makes it worse that you dont believe in selfdefense.

I was not going to say anything from this sad little thread until I saw this mess.

OK, let's just say the kid was bad, fine. The kid was going somewhere, A man decided to follow him with a gun in his waist. That same man ended up killing him, but its the kids fault. The dead kid. 

The 17 year kid is DEAD, the person who killed him is free yet most of you are celabrating, I don't get it. 

And Zimmerman had to many choices.

1. Don't follow people

2. No Gun

3. Stay in the car

4. Don't go fight children

Zimmerman had plenty of choices, but he was so sure that this kid was up to no good he kept following him instead of waiting for the cops. His life was never in danger, he had a gun and knew it. He  wanted to be superman, but took someone kid away from them. And shame on anyone who dares talk bad about this dead child who did nothing wrong, he comminited no crime but being black and looking suspicious.

Dumb ass Treyvon tried to stand his ground without a gun and look what happened to him, this is why so many urban youths in the states need more access to guns, to prevent such tragedies