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oniyide on 14 July 2013
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
100 million install base, weak specs = no third party support.
Higher specs, small install base = no third party support.
Nintendo..damned if you do, damned if you dont.

OT-I will be buying Watch dogs, Arkham and maybe splinter cell for my Wii U. Gotta snap up the good third party games that are here.


wrong, Wii got alot of 3rd party support, ALOT or do you think all those games on the WIi were made by Ninty, WIi had more games than either PS3 or 360

Your right Wii did get a lot of 3rd party support, but what ratio of it was actually decent? A lot of 3rd parties released sub par efforts to cash in on its success, and games like Red Steel 2 and Goldeneye were few and far between.

Many 3rd parties used the "weak hardware" excuse to not bring certain franchises out on Wii, or even build an exclusive from the ground up to suit the hardware. I mean the sales were there, so they could have reaped the rewards. Now Ninty has the tools to create these HD experiences 3rd parties now bang on about low sales of the hardware. Nintendo cant win sometimes

"decent" is in the eye of the beholder, there were a LOT of games on Wii that I would not consider anywhere near decent, but you know what? they sold well, especially considering what they must have cost to make. So yes they did cash in on its sucess and whose fault is that? Would any of us not done the same thing, not their fault all those dancing exercise games do well, they are giving the audience exactly what they want.

What are these franchises that should have come to WIi   cause im sure they would not have been anywhere near their HD counterparts and with that being the case, no one would buy the WIi version. Would an Assassin's Creed fan buy a WIi version of that game knowing its going to be worst than what he/she is used to? nope. Hell you can look at the multiplat games for Wii and see that.



Both GTA and Assasins creed could have had a Wii version. Not a crappy down port, but an exclusive game built from the ground up to suit the hardware. GTA games were good on PS2, so im sure a decent GTA could have been utilized to run on the Wii. My point being, the install base was there, an exclusive Wii GTA or Assassins Creed would both have sold over a million. But 3rd parties didnt want to build such games from the ground up for the Wii, even though the audience was there. Goldeneye was a quality game built from the ground up for Wii, it sold superbly, and got ported to the HD systems. It proves it could be done.


those games would not have sold anywhere near as well as their HD counterparts, that was my point and probably why we never saw a version of those games on the WIi. 



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zorg1000 on 14 July 2013
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
100 million install base, weak specs = no third party support.
Higher specs, small install base = no third party support.
Nintendo..damned if you do, damned if you dont.

OT-I will be buying Watch dogs, Arkham and maybe splinter cell for my Wii U. Gotta snap up the good third party games that are here.


wrong, Wii got alot of 3rd party support, ALOT or do you think all those games on the WIi were made by Ninty, WIi had more games than either PS3 or 360

Your right Wii did get a lot of 3rd party support, but what ratio of it was actually decent? A lot of 3rd parties released sub par efforts to cash in on its success, and games like Red Steel 2 and Goldeneye were few and far between.

Many 3rd parties used the "weak hardware" excuse to not bring certain franchises out on Wii, or even build an exclusive from the ground up to suit the hardware. I mean the sales were there, so they could have reaped the rewards. Now Ninty has the tools to create these HD experiences 3rd parties now bang on about low sales of the hardware. Nintendo cant win sometimes

"decent" is in the eye of the beholder, there were a LOT of games on Wii that I would not consider anywhere near decent, but you know what? they sold well, especially considering what they must have cost to make. So yes they did cash in on its sucess and whose fault is that? Would any of us not done the same thing, not their fault all those dancing exercise games do well, they are giving the audience exactly what they want.

What are these franchises that should have come to WIi   cause im sure they would not have been anywhere near their HD counterparts and with that being the case, no one would buy the WIi version. Would an Assassin's Creed fan buy a WIi version of that game knowing its going to be worst than what he/she is used to? nope. Hell you can look at the multiplat games for Wii and see that.



Both GTA and Assasins creed could have had a Wii version. Not a crappy down port, but an exclusive game built from the ground up to suit the hardware. GTA games were good on PS2, so im sure a decent GTA could have been utilized to run on the Wii. My point being, the install base was there, an exclusive Wii GTA or Assassins Creed would both have sold over a million. But 3rd parties didnt want to build such games from the ground up for the Wii, even though the audience was there. Goldeneye was a quality game built from the ground up for Wii, it sold superbly, and got ported to the HD systems. It proves it could be done.


those games would not have sold anywhere near as well as their HD counterparts, that was my point and probably why we never saw a version of those games on the WIi. 

Ur right they wouldnt have sold as well compared to the PS360 version but an exclusive spin-off for Wii could have easily sold a million and made a profit. Look at COD and Resident Evil, they both passed that mark on Wii and im willing to bet GTA or Assassins Creed would have as well.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.

oniyide on 14 July 2013
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
100 million install base, weak specs = no third party support.
Higher specs, small install base = no third party support.
Nintendo..damned if you do, damned if you dont.

OT-I will be buying Watch dogs, Arkham and maybe splinter cell for my Wii U. Gotta snap up the good third party games that are here.


wrong, Wii got alot of 3rd party support, ALOT or do you think all those games on the WIi were made by Ninty, WIi had more games than either PS3 or 360

Your right Wii did get a lot of 3rd party support, but what ratio of it was actually decent? A lot of 3rd parties released sub par efforts to cash in on its success, and games like Red Steel 2 and Goldeneye were few and far between.

Many 3rd parties used the "weak hardware" excuse to not bring certain franchises out on Wii, or even build an exclusive from the ground up to suit the hardware. I mean the sales were there, so they could have reaped the rewards. Now Ninty has the tools to create these HD experiences 3rd parties now bang on about low sales of the hardware. Nintendo cant win sometimes

"decent" is in the eye of the beholder, there were a LOT of games on Wii that I would not consider anywhere near decent, but you know what? they sold well, especially considering what they must have cost to make. So yes they did cash in on its sucess and whose fault is that? Would any of us not done the same thing, not their fault all those dancing exercise games do well, they are giving the audience exactly what they want.

What are these franchises that should have come to WIi   cause im sure they would not have been anywhere near their HD counterparts and with that being the case, no one would buy the WIi version. Would an Assassin's Creed fan buy a WIi version of that game knowing its going to be worst than what he/she is used to? nope. Hell you can look at the multiplat games for Wii and see that.



Both GTA and Assasins creed could have had a Wii version. Not a crappy down port, but an exclusive game built from the ground up to suit the hardware. GTA games were good on PS2, so im sure a decent GTA could have been utilized to run on the Wii. My point being, the install base was there, an exclusive Wii GTA or Assassins Creed would both have sold over a million. But 3rd parties didnt want to build such games from the ground up for the Wii, even though the audience was there. Goldeneye was a quality game built from the ground up for Wii, it sold superbly, and got ported to the HD systems. It proves it could be done.


those games would not have sold anywhere near as well as their HD counterparts, that was my point and probably why we never saw a version of those games on the WIi. 

Ur right they wouldnt have sold as well compared to the PS360 version but an exclusive spin-off for Wii could have easily sold a million and made a profit. Look at COD and Resident Evil, they both passed that mark on Wii and im willing to bet GTA or Assassins Creed would have as well.

COD is a much bigger franchise, Resident Evil was a port of port. I say that to say this those games were wasnt expensive to make, GTA and AC are open world games and would have been FAR more expensive to produce, even on the Wii. So i think those are not good comparisons. I hold that if these Rockstar and Ubisoft thought they could make money on those games by being on Wii they would have done so. Especially Ubi. So i side with the companies in this regard.



IsawYoshi on 14 July 2013

It's really sad that we won't get GTAV. It is my most anticipated 3rd party game :(



zorg1000 on 14 July 2013
oniyide said:
zorg1000 said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
oniyide said:
zippy said:
100 million install base, weak specs = no third party support.
Higher specs, small install base = no third party support.
Nintendo..damned if you do, damned if you dont.

OT-I will be buying Watch dogs, Arkham and maybe splinter cell for my Wii U. Gotta snap up the good third party games that are here.


wrong, Wii got alot of 3rd party support, ALOT or do you think all those games on the WIi were made by Ninty, WIi had more games than either PS3 or 360

Your right Wii did get a lot of 3rd party support, but what ratio of it was actually decent? A lot of 3rd parties released sub par efforts to cash in on its success, and games like Red Steel 2 and Goldeneye were few and far between.

Many 3rd parties used the "weak hardware" excuse to not bring certain franchises out on Wii, or even build an exclusive from the ground up to suit the hardware. I mean the sales were there, so they could have reaped the rewards. Now Ninty has the tools to create these HD experiences 3rd parties now bang on about low sales of the hardware. Nintendo cant win sometimes

"decent" is in the eye of the beholder, there were a LOT of games on Wii that I would not consider anywhere near decent, but you know what? they sold well, especially considering what they must have cost to make. So yes they did cash in on its sucess and whose fault is that? Would any of us not done the same thing, not their fault all those dancing exercise games do well, they are giving the audience exactly what they want.

What are these franchises that should have come to WIi   cause im sure they would not have been anywhere near their HD counterparts and with that being the case, no one would buy the WIi version. Would an Assassin's Creed fan buy a WIi version of that game knowing its going to be worst than what he/she is used to? nope. Hell you can look at the multiplat games for Wii and see that.



Both GTA and Assasins creed could have had a Wii version. Not a crappy down port, but an exclusive game built from the ground up to suit the hardware. GTA games were good on PS2, so im sure a decent GTA could have been utilized to run on the Wii. My point being, the install base was there, an exclusive Wii GTA or Assassins Creed would both have sold over a million. But 3rd parties didnt want to build such games from the ground up for the Wii, even though the audience was there. Goldeneye was a quality game built from the ground up for Wii, it sold superbly, and got ported to the HD systems. It proves it could be done.


those games would not have sold anywhere near as well as their HD counterparts, that was my point and probably why we never saw a version of those games on the WIi. 

Ur right they wouldnt have sold as well compared to the PS360 version but an exclusive spin-off for Wii could have easily sold a million and made a profit. Look at COD and Resident Evil, they both passed that mark on Wii and im willing to bet GTA or Assassins Creed would have as well.

COD is a much bigger franchise, Resident Evil was a port of port. I say that to say this those games were wasnt expensive to make, GTA and AC are open world games and would have been FAR more expensive to produce, even on the Wii. So i think those are not good comparisons. I hold that if these Rockstar and Ubisoft thought they could make money on those games by being on Wii they would have done so. Especially Ubi. So i side with the companies in this regard.

I was talking about Chronicles, not RE4. But u could be right about costs being higher for those games



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Proxy-Pie on 14 July 2013
IsawYoshi said:
It's really sad that we won't get GTAV. It is my most anticipated 3rd party game :(


yeah, and this just reminded me, I saw some guy's post a few months ago saying what the Wii U could do with the gamepad for a game like GTA V, one of those being that you can have money showing on the gamepad while you're in the strip club (XD) and when you wanna throw the money, you swipe on the gamepad NintendoLand-Shuriken Style, wierd idea, but cool for some reason XD

BTW, I know that there's not chance that it would come to the Wii U, but has it been offically denied? again, not trying to get hope, I know it probably won't come XD



IsawYoshi on 15 July 2013
MohammadBadir said:
IsawYoshi said:
It's really sad that we won't get GTAV. It is my most anticipated 3rd party game :(


yeah, and this just reminded me, I saw some guy's post a few months ago saying what the Wii U could do with the gamepad for a game like GTA V, one of those being that you can have money showing on the gamepad while you're in the strip club (XD) and when you wanna throw the money, you swipe on the gamepad NintendoLand-Shuriken Style, wierd idea, but cool for some reason XD

BTW, I know that there's not chance that it would come to the Wii U, but has it been offically denied? again, not trying to get hope, I know it probably won't come XD

It's still uncertain. So it might still come to Wii U, as far as I know a PC version hasn't been confirmed either, although that version is much more likely to come.



curl-6 on 15 July 2013

If AAA multiplatform games released on time (Batman Arkham Origins, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4, Splinter Cell) flop on Wii U, Nintendo fans who didn't support them have officially lost any right to complain about a lack of third party support.



oniyide on 15 July 2013
curl-6 said:

If AAA multiplatform games released on time (Batman Arkham Origins, Watch Dogs, Assassin's Creed 4, Splinter Cell) flop on Wii U, Nintendo fans who didn't support them have officially lost any right to complain about a lack of third party support.

honestly the amount of fans who are complaining are so small that it doesnt really matter. Most Ninty fans who want those games have the system to play it on in addition to whatever Nintendo console they have.



Gamegears on 15 July 2013

Well let's see... I already picked up the Wii U version of Lego Batman 2... and I have a preorder on Young Justice.. I might pick up Lego Marvel Superheroes too.. I am wondering why Young Justice isn't making more peoples lists.. it seems to be another Ultimate Alliance/X-Men Legends deal.. I would have thought it would have been a little more popular.. I would order the Batman Arkham Origins.. But I think I will stick with the 3DS on that one..



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