Zero999 said:
oniyide said:
Zero999 said:
by that logic the general population would never buy any new console since the last gen will always be cheapest, so big falacy.
I'm also tired of repeating that current wii u sales are no parameter. the existence of wii and ps360 are not in any way the cause for wii u's low sales. the cause is lack of games, period.
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stop moving goal posts, you say that people will favor the cheapest console, which MOST of the time seem to be true (GC not withstanding) so how doesnt the actual cheaper consoles on the market matter? THe general population will CONTINUE to buy the cheaper consoles as they have been doing since WIi Us been on the market. The people buying them at launch for alot of money are the hardcore fans, who dont mind shelling out several hundred bucks.
YOu can live in your bottle world all you want, PS360 and WIi being on the market DOES affect WIi U, period. Only someone in denial will lie to themselves, when someone is looking to buy a console and we are talking price, when they look on the shelves who is the cheapest? who is the most expensive? YOu mean to tell me that these systems arent effecting WIi U and it would be selling just as crappy if they didnt exist?
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you're the one in denial. wii u's situation is not connected to competition from ps360 and wii, those 3 consoles could be doing better or worse than now and wii u would still be selling like crap. it only need the games.
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I agree with u that games are the most important facor but those other consoles games/pricr factor into it as well.
Imagine a random 25 year old shopping for a new console with no bias towards any of the consoles. He sees a 250gb 360 bundled w/Darksiders 2+Arkham City, 500gb PS3 w/Assassins Creed 3 for $299 or 32gb Wii U w/Nintendo Land for $349. Also he sees that Tomb Raider, Metal Gear Rising, Dead Space 3, Bioshock Infinite, DMC, Colonial Marines, Gears of War, God of War, Last of Us, Halo 4 are on PS3/360 and Wii U has Lego City and NSMBU. He is likely to pick PS360 due to price/games.
Or a mother buying a console for her 2 kids aged 5-10. She sees a $129 Wii w/Wii Sports+Sports Resort vs. $349 Wii U w/Nintendo Land. Also Wi has Wii Fit, Mario Kart, NSMB, Zumba, which are games that appeal not only to her kids but her as well. While again Wii U has Lego City and NSMBU but are those 2 games worth an extra $200? Probably not.
So overall Wii U needs big games to release and it has those later this year but anytime a consumer picks a different console its taking away a potential sale from Wii U.