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Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2013
mutantclown said:


Yeah, DVDs downgrade accessibity, it downgrades games in general. $600 was pricey at the time but still worh it, future proof machine all around, high quality build. It paid off to include Blu-ray, not only it saved the format from the doom Microsoft so vehemently tried to send it to (both of them, actually, even when they "supported" HD-DVD), it also allowed some of the best games of this generation, experiences that wouldn't be the same at all without it, even if 90% of them were 1st party titles. 

Once again, how does it downgrade "accessibility"?

The PS3 hasn't proven to be anymore future proof than the 360. Lots of space but still limited specs. Furthermore, now that MS allows mandatory installs it has become just as future proof as the PS3.

The format war is irrelevant. That doesn't prove Bluray was essential to give you the same experience.

The 360 also offered some of the best game experiences and it did it with DVDs. Like I said before, the only things PS3 offered with Bluray is less disc swaps and sharper video.



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green_sky on 03 July 2013

Am jealous. 360 gamers get two discs for the price of one.



mutantclown on 03 July 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
mutantclown said:


Yeah, DVDs downgrade accessibity, it downgrades games in general. $600 was pricey at the time but still worh it, future proof machine all around, high quality build. It paid off to include Blu-ray, not only it saved the format from the doom Microsoft so vehemently tried to send it to (both of them, actually, even when they "supported" HD-DVD), it also allowed some of the best games of this generation, experiences that wouldn't be the same at all without it, even if 90% of them were 1st party titles. 

Once again, how does it downgrade "accessibility"?

The PS3 hasn't proven to be anymore future proof than the 360. Lots of space but still limited specs. Furthermore, now that MS allows mandatory installs it has become just as future proof as the PS3.

The format war is irrelevant. That doesn't prove Bluray was essential to give you the same experience.

The 360 also offered some of the best game experiences and it did it with DVDs. Like I said before, the only things PS3 offered with Bluray is less disc swaps and sharper video.


It downgrades accessability in the form of disc swapping and in the way games access data to offer continuious streaming experiences like the ones found in Uncharted games and the Last of Us, no loading screens, also made possible by the use of a standard built-in HDD, another future-proof trait and very valuable feature the PS3 had over the 360. 360 hardware limitations held back gaming because of its DVD drive and lack of HDD in all SKUs. 360 didn't have HDMI, Wifi or HDD (as standard) when it launch, and it has a DVD ROM. Pretty backwards if you ask me, kind like Wii U these days.



green_sky on 03 July 2013
mutantclown said:

It downgrades accessability in the form of disc swapping and in the way games access data to offer continuious streaming experiences like the ones found in Uncharted games and the Last of Us, no loading screens, also made possible by the use of a standard built-in HDD, another future-proof trait and very valuable feature the PS3 had over the 360. 360 hardware limitations held back gaming because of its DVD drive and lack of HDD in all SKUs.

It is okay. It happens. Just like PS2 held back xbox and gamecube. Mostly xbox though. 



Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2013
mutantclown said:


It downgrades accessability in the form of disc swapping and in the way games access data to offer continuious streaming experiences like the ones found in Uncharted games and the Last of Us, no loading screens, also made possible by the use of a standard built-in HDD, another future-proof trait and very valuable feature the PS3 had over the 360. 360 hardware limitations held back gaming because of its DVD drive and lack of HDD in all SKUs. 360 didn't have HDMI, Wifi or HDD (as standard) when it launch, and it has a DVD ROM. Pretty backwards if you ask me, kind like Wii U these days.

I feel you're exaggerating how difficult swapping a disc actually is to make a point. If you feel this strongly about it I assume you'll be going all digital, if you haven't done so already.

Uncharted and Last of Us did have loading screens, they were the cut scenes. 360 games do the same thing.

You can just buy an HDD or use USB memory sticks for storage on the 360. Wifi has nothing to do with being future proof and can give you lag. Lag isn't the future!

DVD was not backwards, it proved to be sufficient for the 7th gen. The PS3's Bluray was not sufficient and that is why the PS3 relies so heavily on a HDD.



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Mr Puggsly on 03 July 2013
green_sky said:

It is okay. It happens. Just like PS2 held back xbox and gamecube. Mostly xbox though. 

Here's why your argument doesn't hold any water.

The most visually impressive original Xbox games looked much better than PS2 games.

To the contrary, the most visually impressive PS3 games are about at par with 360 games.

The 360 isn't holding back PS3 exclusives. So why don't they look much better if at all than 360 games?



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green_sky on 03 July 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
green_sky said:

It is okay. It happens. Just like PS2 held back xbox and gamecube. Mostly xbox though. 

Here's why your argument doesn't hold any water.

The most visually impressive original Xbox games looked much better than PS2 games.

To the contrary, the most visually impressive PS3 games are about at par with 360 games.

The 360 isn't holding back PS3 exclusives. So why don't they look much better if at all than 360 games?

When do my arguments ever hold any water against people who take even a simple comment so seriously. Take it easy. Am on your side. I want those 2 discs. 



JOKA_ on 03 July 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
mutantclown said:

The quality difference wasn't big enough to justify a $600 price tag. Which is why Sony chased so many people to the 360. Did they expect sharper video and no disc swaps to win people over?

So DVDs downgrade accessibility? I'm not sure what that means...

Oh god....must resist....making next gen comparison....

 

On Topic: So essentially DVD and Blu-ray are now even at the end of the gen.  Blur-ray is on one disc and installs, while DVD is on two discs, one for the install and the other for the playing.  While Sony lost out on console sales, Blu-ray is now the defacto next-gen format, so they will get royalties.  In retrospect, I wonder if they think it paid off.



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mutantclown on 04 July 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
green_sky said:

It is okay. It happens. Just like PS2 held back xbox and gamecube. Mostly xbox though. 

Here's why your argument doesn't hold any water.

The most visually impressive original Xbox games looked much better than PS2 games.

To the contrary, the most visually impressive PS3 games are about at par with 360 games.

The 360 isn't holding back PS3 exclusives. So why don't they look much better if at all than 360 games?


False. No argument. End of conversation, LMAO.



Mr Puggsly on 04 July 2013
mutantclown said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Here's why your argument doesn't hold any water.

The most visually impressive original Xbox games looked much better than PS2 games.

To the contrary, the most visually impressive PS3 games are about at par with 360 games.

The 360 isn't holding back PS3 exclusives. So why don't they look much better if at all than 360 games?


False. No argument. End of conversation, LMAO.

Yeah, that response shows you don't play much if any 360.



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