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Add me into the list of people who want this 3D fad to go away. It ruins the experience and doesn't add immersion for me. I go out of my way to avoid this 3D stuff. Not everyone can be James Cameron but they feel the need to add this annoyance nonetheless.



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Kaizar said:
disolitude said:
chapset said:
disolitude said:

Just saw World War Z and while the movie was great, the 3D was not...

3D in theaters offers a darker screen since you're only getting half of the light to each eye, its out of focus unless you get good seats right in the middle and is absolutely not necessary for a movie like World war Z.

3D for gaming still has some merit and some movies do benefit from it, but why do over 50% of movies today have to utilize tacked on 3D I have no idea...

When is this 3D fad going to die? I've been fooling around with 3D since 2008 and at this point I will at this point pay a higher movie ticket premium to avoid 3D at all cost.

3d for gaming is pretty much dead no?


It pretty much is. On PCs, Nvidia 3D vision supports has dried up and on consoles it was never worthwhile to begin with. The 3e capable monitors on PC are mostly used for fast twitch 2D gaming.

Here is the latest 3d monitor from asus, you wont even know its 3d unless you scroll all the way down...

http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VG248QE/


The Nintendo 3DS is selling more then 300,000 a week, and it keeps getting more greater software support with each month that goes by...it's like support overload LOL.

Plus it does 160Mtriangle/s & has over 50 shader cores (PICA200 GPU) and you can adjust the volume of 3D so even you can enjoy it, and the screen gets brighter with the 3D ON. And theres a 3DS XL for a way bigger screen.

No not really you are on vgchartz at least use their numbers, the 3ds would still sale decent numbers if you remove the 3d, when was the last time you saw a thread or an article praising the 3d of the 3ds, all I remember is people complaining about the 3d at launch and other pleople telling they play their games without using the 3d



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chapset said:
Kaizar said:
disolitude said:

 


It pretty much is. On PCs, Nvidia 3D vision supports has dried up and on consoles it was never worthwhile to begin with. The 3e capable monitors on PC are mostly used for fast twitch 2D gaming.

Here is the latest 3d monitor from asus, you wont even know its 3d unless you scroll all the way down...

http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VG248QE/


The Nintendo 3DS is selling more then 300,000 a week, and it keeps getting more greater software support with each month that goes by...it's like support overload LOL.

Plus it does 160Mtriangle/s & has over 50 shader cores (PICA200 GPU) and you can adjust the volume of 3D so even you can enjoy it, and the screen gets brighter with the 3D ON. And theres a 3DS XL for a way bigger screen.

No not really you are on vgchartz at least use their numbers, the 3ds would still sale decent numbers if you remove the 3d, when was the last time you saw a thread or an article praising the 3d of the 3ds, all I remember is people complaining about the 3d at launch and other pleople telling they play their games without using the 3d

Looking at his posts, It all reeks of viral marketing... Ive never seen anyone praise 3d like this with mostly incorrect information.



Pemalite said:
disolitude said:


It pretty much is. On PCs, Nvidia 3D vision supports has dried up and on consoles it was never worthwhile to begin with. The 3e capable monitors on PC are mostly used for fast twitch 2D gaming.

Here is the latest 3d monitor from asus, you wont even know its 3d unless you scroll all the way down...

http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VG248QE/

The Lightboost tech though. My god. Every TV/Monitor should have it combined with 120hz or more, the fluidity is insane, almost at CRT levels.
In-fact I'm surprised Cinema's and TV's havent done something similar to Lightboost.

Still, I wouldn't buy it, I would rather rip my eyes out than have to endure 1080P, TN panel.

Yeah i had the benq 2420tx monitor till about 2 months ago. 3D was good thanks to lightboost (brighter), but 2D was awesome at 120 hz. I was debating of getting 2 more in eyefinity but 7950s overclocked could barely run 1 monitor at 1080p and give me 100-120 fps in modern games. Id really need 3x gtx 780 to make use of 120z surround...



OdinHades said:
Kaizar said:

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The 3D makes everything brighter on the Nintendo 3DS XL & active 3D glasses 3D TVs.
You now got no excuses to avoid 3D.

 


I hate the 3D on my 3DS XL. The ghosting is just really horrible. Sometimes when I play Donkey Kong, I move the system just a little bit and can't see anything. Then I die. That's why I always play with 3D off. It's nice when you see it for the first time, but it gets old with time. 

I also happen to have a 3D TV, but I barely use that feature anymore. I played Killzone 3 in 3D but it just doesn't add anything. Instead, it tires my eyes. 

I think there is a pretty good reason why most TV manufacturers do not advertise 3D anymore (at least where I live). Sure modern TVs are all capable of doing 3D and so the sales of 3D TVs do increase on paper. But nobody really wants it all that much. 

But don't get me wrong, I don't want 3D to disappear. If you have fun with it, that's fine by me. I just want 2D to stay, that's all. 


I heard of people always falling asleep for the ones that can't handle 3D.

Do you ever go into a deep sleep when viewing 3D?

Anyways all 3D electronics can view 3D in 2D like 3D TV & 3DS & so fort. I don't see a reason for 3D to go away, since everyone can still watch it in 2D. I just think some of these other users are extremely 2D bias. If you can watch all 3D things in 2D (which you can), then there is no reason to make threads like this nor wish for 3D to go away, and this thread just seems really fanboyish when you consider reality.



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Jay520 said:
pezus said:
Man of Steel was great in (IMAX) 3D


I disagree. I thought it was bad in 3D (and 2D).


He said IMAX 3D.

NOT 3D.



SvennoJ said:

I hope 4K movies will get directors back to shooting and editting for 2D without all the restrictions imposed by 3D.

Walter Murch still sums it up best:
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/why-3d-doesnt-work-and-never-will-case-closed

The biggest problem with 3D, though, is the "convergence/focus" issue. A couple of the other issues -- darkness and "smallness" -- are at least theoretically solvable. But the deeper problem is that the audience must focus their eyes at the plane of the screen -- say it is 80 feet away. This is constant no matter what. But their eyes must converge at perhaps 10 feet away, then 60 feet, then 120 feet, and so on, depending on what the illusion is.

Consequently, the editing of 3D films cannot be as rapid as for 2D films, because of this shifting of convergence: it takes a number of milliseconds for the brain/eye to "get" what the space of each shot is and adjust.

And lastly, the question of immersion. 3D films remind the audience that they are in a certain "perspective" relationship to the image. It is almost a Brechtian trick. Whereas if the film story has really gripped an audience they are "in" the picture in a kind of dreamlike "spaceless" space. So a good story will give you more dimensionality than you can ever cope with.


It's no wonder most succesful 3D movies are CGI amusement park ride material. When it comes to story people either don't notice the 3D or find it distracting. I rather get lost in the movie while letting my eyes wander over all the details, 3D lessens that for me. Keep it for games where you control the camera and perspective.


Or maybe I'm just old, as one of the the conclusions of this article states
http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2012/12/19/the-hobbit-an-unexpected-masterclass-in-why-hfr-fails-and-a-reaffirmation-of-what-makes-cinema-magical/


*looks at Pacific Rim 3D trailer in theaters and disagrees with statement*



Kaizar said:
OdinHades said:

I hate the 3D on my 3DS XL. The ghosting is just really horrible. Sometimes when I play Donkey Kong, I move the system just a little bit and can't see anything. Then I die. That's why I always play with 3D off. It's nice when you see it for the first time, but it gets old with time. 

I also happen to have a 3D TV, but I barely use that feature anymore. I played Killzone 3 in 3D but it just doesn't add anything. Instead, it tires my eyes. 

I think there is a pretty good reason why most TV manufacturers do not advertise 3D anymore (at least where I live). Sure modern TVs are all capable of doing 3D and so the sales of 3D TVs do increase on paper. But nobody really wants it all that much. 

But don't get me wrong, I don't want 3D to disappear. If you have fun with it, that's fine by me. I just want 2D to stay, that's all. 


I heard of people always falling asleep for the ones that can't handle 3D.

Do you ever go into a deep sleep when viewing 3D?

Anyways all 3D electronics can view 3D in 2D like 3D TV & 3DS & so fort. I don't see a reason for 3D to go away, since everyone can still watch it in 2D. I just think some of these other users are extremely 2D bias. If you can watch all 3D things in 2D (which you can), then there is no reason to make threads like this nor wish for 3D to go away, and this thread just seems really fanboyish when you consider reality.

Falling asleep? What? Close your eyes or look away maybe to get rid of that umcofortable feeling caused by the mismatch in focus and convergence. A headache possibly but falling asleep, never heard of that.

I do see a reason for 3D to tone down a bit as it is limitting film and editting techniques. It restricts the artistic expression. It would not work with or ruin most of my favorite movies.

I'm not sure what you mean with this:
*looks at Pacific Rim 3D trailer in theaters and disagrees with statement*

For me it affirms everything about it being a gimmick. It reminds me of the Star tours attraction in Disneyland, that trailer belongs in a simulator ride. Anyway it's impossible to judge a movie from a trailer, just a bunch of special effects thrown together.
I really like Pan's Labyrinth from Guillermo del Torro, and I don't see how 3D can be anything but a distraction while watching that. Plus it wouldn't have looked that way if it had been made for 3D. Pacific rim I can't get excited for at all.



I hate 3 D, don't see why I would pay more money for some eye popping shit that makes your head hurt!



Well I hope it doesnt die, I rather enjoy my 3D TV, and paid good money for it to be used.

I can understand why some don't like it but I have fun with it and enjoy it a lot.