that seems a bit much for one second....why not just hid the load times with clever doors like MP# that way even though you take 4-5 secs to load you can just reload some guns and refocus yourself

 1.) 1 second off your load time is indeed faster, wether or not it matters to you is your opinion lol.

 2.) I've had some nightmareish installs on a Pc :/ Maybe you just have a good computer ;)

3.) Don't assume this is Sony's fault :P if you really feel like this is a violation on people, blame capcoms dumbass xD 

 In devil may cry, I'm used to running all over there quaint maps and going through many, many, many doors. A 20 minute install time can be shrugged off as an install because you can do something while you wait >_>; having additional load times AS YOU PLAY on the other hand can suck something fierce :/ 

I'm not sure what it would be like on the 360, probably pretty bitchin :P They should have included it as an option for both, but again this is capcom ;) 

What chunk said

the question i have

the 360 version do you also have to do a 20min install or could you...i don't know...PLAY the game?

if you can just slap in the disk and be playing within a minute or two- heck lets call it 5 minutes- on the 360..and there is a second savings on load times on the ps3 of ~1 second per loading sequence... you would need to do.....15x60 or 900 loading sequences to "catch up"

2 people loading game... person 1 ps3 person 2 360...5 minutes later person 2 starts playing...

15minutes post that person 1 starts...

if both players are equally skilled and go thru each level in the exact same timeframe, every ~60 loads of a level/cutscene the ps3 person would gain a minute back. ~900 loads later they'd be equal in the game...

IGN's review says: "No, the edge comes in the fact that the PS3 installs a large amount of game files to the hard drive, dramatically reducing load times between stages and cinematics. I've timed the game on both systems numerous times, and each time has been consistently in the PS3's favor. Transitions to gameplay from starting menus are relatively close, frequently within half a second or so of each other, but when you're loading up a cutscene or having another pause in the action, the 360's times are easily three times that of the PS3."

So while the difference may be minimal at points, during some load times it is a large decrease.  And I think that having a third of the load times during some points is well worth the install time.  On a side note didn't this conversation already happen?  Was the one where GGE said that this was the beginning of the end for videogames on the PS3 and they would all have long install times.

Fanboys, stop defending this. Nobody in their right mind will buy/rent a game, go home then say "boy Id really like to shower now." 20 minutes is inexcusable as is the mandatory install.

i dont know....thats the norm for some pc games if you figure in restarts d such so i am not put off by that...it just seems silly for a few seconds--because in total you might make up 15-20 mintues by the time you beat the game is that really that big?

 Right because you'd put in the disc, have it tell you it needs to install for 20 minutes, then sit there complaining >_>? Or would you go the manlier path and declare the game garbage and that you should throw it away to show the world that we don't want loading times? People it's 20 minutes >_>; I've been in the bathroom doing my manly duties for longer than 20 minutes. 

How about this, put the game in, hit install, work out for 20 minutes so you don't feel like a pansy, get some adrenalin going, now play DMC4 and stop whining xD 

I'm not really interested running the game the speed of 12x DVD either so  I chose a shower and a quiet running console myself.

I have gotten used to load times. So what if I get an extra second - that sucks. Do I have the option of not installing it?

@ el Nino - no joke, I was installing GT a few days ago, when downstairs, made a ham samich and poured me a grip of Kool-Aid and came back and that junk was still installing. I forgot my popsicle - went back downstair, snagged it, came back and it was still downloading. That makes no sense.