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outlawauron on 25 June 2013
atma998 said:
outlawauron said:
atma998 said:
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Sometimes I just don't understand Square-Enix...

I know people will say I'm a fanboy but the fact today is that the JRPG public is on PS3... so if a company want to make money and the game will be release for another plataform then you have to release in the better plataform in terms of sales.

But Square don't... they are terrible with that.

MMO'S public is mostly on PC. JRPG's public is mostly on 3DS.

DQIX sold better on DS than DQVIII on PS2. The next DQ game should go on 3DS which is the best platform for JRPG in term of sales.

Going by that logic, DQ9 should have been on PS3 since PS2 was the best platform for JRPGs. There really isn't any evidence as of now that 3DS is the place for JRPGs. 

I really hope the next DQ isn't on a handheld. DQ9 could have been so much more (although 3DS doesn't have nearly the amount of limitations the DS has).

What? Did you take a look at all the million seller JRPG on 3DS? How can you say there is no evidence that 3DS is the place for JRPG so far?

In only two years there is already more million sellers than what PS3 achieved in the past 6 or 7 years.

Just look at the number of major JRPG titles released in the past year, they were mostly all released on 3DS.

DQ7 sold very well and is the only million selling JRPG. I think it would have done well on any platform though. Game is great, loved, and has not been remade ever. Do a good remake of the best selling DQ ever, it's hard to mess that up. Still waiting on an announcement for the States.

I'm not saying the 3DS hasn't had success, but you can't compare those sales with the DS. Not even close.

OK so you don't considere Monster Hunter as a JRPG. That's arguable. But what about Sticker Star, Kingdoms Heart 3D, Dragon Quest Monsters?

I would be curious also of what game you considere as JRPG released on PS3?

Also, DQ7 sold 1.22M (so far) in Japan. Lifetime figures for DQ titles on DS in Japan are 1.27M (DQ4), 1.36M (DQ5) and 1.35M (DQ6). Not to mention that DQ4, DQ5 and DQ6 were released later in the DS lifecycle than DQ7 on 3DS's one. I don't see how it doest not ''even come close'' of the DS success. To me these numbers are quite comparable.

Not really. It's an action game through and through.

Sticker Star, KH3D, and DQM are all not million sellers in Japan and that's all I said. DS had 14 over its lifetime (including 5 over 3 million! That's insane!).

As far as DQ, you have look at the game itself. DQ7 is bigger than any Final Fantasy game. Bigger than really everything outside of Pokemon and a few other Nintendo titles. There isn't anything bigger. DQ4-6 all sold well, but all sold at least 1 million less. You'd expect the 2nd most popular game in the series to do very well in its first remake ever. I think it'll pass those remakes in time.

I also don't think 1 title suddenly puts the 3DS in the same tier as DS. I don't think any console or handheld will be close to that level ever again.



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atma998 on 25 June 2013
outlawauron said:
atma998 said:
outlawauron said:

DQ7 sold very well and is the only million selling JRPG. I think it would have done well on any platform though. Game is great, loved, and has not been remade ever. Do a good remake of the best selling DQ ever, it's hard to mess that up. Still waiting on an announcement for the States.

I'm not saying the 3DS hasn't had success, but you can't compare those sales with the DS. Not even close.

OK so you don't considere Monster Hunter as a JRPG. That's arguable. But what about Sticker Star, Kingdoms Heart 3D, Dragon Quest Monsters?

I would be curious also of what game you considere as JRPG released on PS3?

Also, DQ7 sold 1.22M (so far) in Japan. Lifetime figures for DQ titles on DS in Japan are 1.27M (DQ4), 1.36M (DQ5) and 1.35M (DQ6). Not to mention that DQ4, DQ5 and DQ6 were released later in the DS lifecycle than DQ7 on 3DS's one. I don't see how it doest not ''even come close'' of the DS success. To me these numbers are quite comparable.

Not really. It's an action game through and through.

Sticker Star, KH3D, and DQM are all not million sellers in Japan and that's all I said. DS had 14 over its lifetime (including 5 over 3 million! That's insane!).

As far as DQ, you have look at the game itself. DQ7 is bigger than any Final Fantasy game. Bigger than really everything outside of Pokemon and a few other Nintendo titles. There isn't anything bigger. DQ4-6 all sold well, but all sold at least 1 million less. You'd expect the 2nd most popular game in the series to do very well in its first remake ever. I think it'll pass those remakes in time.

I also don't think 1 title suddenly puts the 3DS in the same tier as DS. I don't think any console or handheld will be close to that level ever again.

Well Action-RPG are still RPGs but that another debate.

DQM is 0.95M in Japan so not that far away to the million...

The original DQ7 sold about 900k more than original DQVI. What did you expect? The remake would not sell twice as good as DQ6's remake. Also you forget to mention that DQ4-5-6 remakes were released later in the DS lifecycle and thus on a larger userbase.

For the rest I also think that due to the decrease of the market it will be hard to see as many JRPGs million sellers as we saw on DS but the point is that the current best platform for JRPGs is 3DS, not really far away from DS and Square-Enix would make a good move saleswise in releasing a DQXI on that platform.



anthony64641 on 25 June 2013

still havent been announced for US




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noname2200 on 25 June 2013
atma998 said:

For the rest I also think that due to the decrease of the market it will be hard to see as many JRPGs million sellers as we saw on DS but the point is that the current best platform for JRPGs is 3DS, not really far away from DS and Square-Enix would make a good move saleswise in releasing a DQXI on that platform.


Don't forget that, if we're going Japan-only, only three JRPGs released in or by 2006 were million sellers.



Soundwave on 25 June 2013

DQXI on 3DS is pretty much a lock, probably already well into development.

The lead platform in Japan gets the mainline DQ games, that's how it's always been, and nothing is catching the 3DS for the next few years minimum (if ever). And 3DS got DQ7 Remake, which is basically a tell tale sign that its the future of the next real DQ game as this is the same pattern for previous "chosen" DQ platforms.



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atma998 on 25 June 2013
noname2200 said:
atma998 said:

For the rest I also think that due to the decrease of the market it will be hard to see as many JRPGs million sellers as we saw on DS but the point is that the current best platform for JRPGs is 3DS, not really far away from DS and Square-Enix would make a good move saleswise in releasing a DQXI on that platform.


Don't forget that, if we're going Japan-only, only three JRPGs released in or by 2006 were million sellers.


True and the only non-Pokémon JRPG to reach 1 million overthere by 2006 was Final Fantasy III.



Soundwave on 25 June 2013

While DQXI is pretty much a lock for 3DS, maybe Nintendo can convince Square-Enix to do a console companion version in 1080p for Wii U, like Monster Hunter.

It could do something like you can play at home on the Wii U, and then on the road with the 3DS, that sorta thing.



outlawauron on 25 June 2013
atma998 said:
outlawauron said:
atma998 said:
outlawauron said:
 

DQ7 sold very well and is the only million selling JRPG. I think it would have done well on any platform though. Game is great, loved, and has not been remade ever. Do a good remake of the best selling DQ ever, it's hard to mess that up. Still waiting on an announcement for the States.

I'm not saying the 3DS hasn't had success, but you can't compare those sales with the DS. Not even close.

OK so you don't considere Monster Hunter as a JRPG. That's arguable. But what about Sticker Star, Kingdoms Heart 3D, Dragon Quest Monsters?

I would be curious also of what game you considere as JRPG released on PS3?

Also, DQ7 sold 1.22M (so far) in Japan. Lifetime figures for DQ titles on DS in Japan are 1.27M (DQ4), 1.36M (DQ5) and 1.35M (DQ6). Not to mention that DQ4, DQ5 and DQ6 were released later in the DS lifecycle than DQ7 on 3DS's one. I don't see how it doest not ''even come close'' of the DS success. To me these numbers are quite comparable.

Not really. It's an action game through and through.

Sticker Star, KH3D, and DQM are all not million sellers in Japan and that's all I said. DS had 14 over its lifetime (including 5 over 3 million! That's insane!).

As far as DQ, you have look at the game itself. DQ7 is bigger than any Final Fantasy game. Bigger than really everything outside of Pokemon and a few other Nintendo titles. There isn't anything bigger. DQ4-6 all sold well, but all sold at least 1 million less. You'd expect the 2nd most popular game in the series to do very well in its first remake ever. I think it'll pass those remakes in time.

I also don't think 1 title suddenly puts the 3DS in the same tier as DS. I don't think any console or handheld will be close to that level ever again.

Well Action-RPG are still RPGs but that another debate.

DQM is 0.95M in Japan so not that far away to the million...

The original DQ7 sold about 900k more than original DQVI. What did you expect? The remake would not sell twice as good as DQ6's remake. Also you forget to mention that DQ4-5-6 remakes were released later in the DS lifecycle and thus on a larger userbase.

For the rest I also think that due to the decrease of the market it will be hard to see as many JRPGs million sellers as we saw on DS but the point is that the current best platform for JRPGs is 3DS, not really far away from DS and Square-Enix would make a good move saleswise in releasing a DQXI on that platform.

I don't think MH is an action RPG either. It's an zoned action game designed to be played co-op.

I also don't get why you think I said or believe DQ7 sold badly. It did well and as expected (and I said I think it'll keep on for a while longer). Userbase with a series like DQ really isn't that important. Once you have enough consoles, the difference becomes nominal. There won't be any noticeable different between launching the game on 11 million HW and 14 million HW. DQ sells to DQ fans.

Now we've come full circle. Still don't think you can begin to compare 3DS to DS. 3DS isn't some dominant platform, but is the likely destination. From my perspective, it sucks, since DQ is so much better on consoles (going back to DQ8 really makes DQ9 even more disappointing). Would love to see it on any of them really. 



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

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Trunkin on 25 June 2013

It wasn't already? What were they thinking!?



think-man on 25 June 2013

Maybe Nintendo had this exclusive for about a year, or maybe SE didn't make as much money on the WiiU version as they had hoped.

Is it any good?



 

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