Xbox one80 will take USA and UK no question. It'll be closer in those countries this generation because PS4 is launching with a price advantage and at the same time, and a proportion of people who felt betrayed by MS with the DRM crap will stay away from XB one80. So I think it'll be a 1.3:1 advantage in USA rather than a 1.6:1 advantage.

Rest of the world is PS4's though, because MS is going to take some time before it can partner with TV providers in a lot of markets, and it won't partner at all in some, so that negates a lot of the live TV selling points that XB one80 has over PS4.

I'm sure you can find something sor tof easily. They said that on their press conference.

Sony will still dominate this generation. The only reason the xbox 360 even challenged it is because it launched earlier and was cheaper. Now it's the other way around.

Nah, I want the sales neck and neck for competition reasons.

Forza 5, Sunset Overdrive, Quantum Break, Spark, Titanfall, Killer Instinct (even if the character designer is really bad)... There are plenty of appealing games on this console.

But yeah, I can see the price being a huge factor here. Just as it was for the PS3.

Backward compatibility is a non issue. You don't have that on the PS4 either. Maybe people live in really small apartment where they don't have enough room to have multiple consoles plugged into their TV at the same time... But it's never been an issue to me. Anyway, I don't go back to the older consoles often enough to find the lack of BC a bother.

And it doesn't require an internet connection anymore.

• An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.

bolded1: lie

b2: HUGE lie

b3: irrelevant, we talk about games

b4: wii u's third party support needs to improve ant it probably will. you saying it won't get better is not gonna change the future.

b5: redundant to you maybe, not to the dozens of millions who play and love them.

b6: Sure, the one company who releases games of the same franchise several years apart of each other is "recycling them". and many are completely different in the game design.

b7:I can't believe someone has the capacity to write this crap. wii u gamepad is a tradicional controler with a touchscreen, it plays any kind of game regardless of your bitching.

no, the ps3 being expensive as hell and having a crappy lineup for the first years helped a lot.

Not to mention they have a weaker console with bigger focus on social and TV, as well as smaller first party support (most certanly improved from 360, but still smaller than Sony's and Nintendo's). The console is also harder to develop for...and its being outsold by PS4 in its strongest markets (US and UK)

But yeah, they are in much better shape than they were 30 minutes ago.

Are you jut trolling me? Because if you are please just say so.

First thing Nintendos online infrastructure is far behind Microsofts infrastructure even Nintendo knows that. 

The Xbone is much more powerfull then the Wii U

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4_vs._Xbox_One_vs._Wii_U_Comparison_Chart

How many Third party titles came out this year for the Wii U? And how many of those games got released at the same date? How many non Nintendo titles where announced at the E3? No MGS no Witcher no Dragon Age no Division etc.

Some things are subjective so I wont discuss this.

Have you tried playing Injustice or AC3 on the Wii U gamepad? Its an inferior input device then the Xbox controller

The gap in power is really not enough to be relevant to me.  We'll most likely see what we saw this generation.  Sony's first party stuff will look marginally better, and third party stuff will be pretty similar.

Focus on social media and TV is not necessarily a bad thing.  The games lineup they showed at E3 was just as robust, if not more, than the PS4's lineup, and if they keep that up  (which is questionable given their track record) then they can do all the TV/media stuff they want. 

I'm really not sure that the console is harder to develop for.  From my understanding, the architecture is similar to the PS4.  Regardless, third party support does not seem like a problem at this time.  The XBox One is not being outsold by the PS4 in its strongest markets, or in any markets.  Both are being outsold by the Wii U though.  Neither system has launched yet and as we clearly can see, a lot can change from now until launch.

Right now, I'm honestly leaning more towards the XBone.  The lineup of games seems better, and the features are neat.  Certainly not worth 500 dollars for me, but combined with the software, maybe worth 100. 

However, two things hold me back.  First off, Sony's first party support has been stronger over the years, with a lot more diversity.  I didn't see that at E3, but hopefully Sony will show off more stuff in the future. I'm also pretty unwilling to buy anything MS at launch.  They've showed a total and complete willingness to send a faulty product to retail.

Moreover, neither console has a very strong lineup in my mind.  Each system has one game I'd really like to play (Dead Rising/Infamous) and XBone has a couple more that intrigue me (KI, Project Spark).  Nothing to make me throw 4-500 bucks on the table.  I'm planning on spending a lot of money on the stuff I want for 3DS (Pokemon, Zelda, Mario/Luigi) Wii U (Mario 3D World, Wonderful 101, Game/Wario, MK8, Arkham Origins, etc) and catching up on some games I missed (Metal Gear Rising, DMC, Tomb Raider), so I don't plan on having the gaming budget to buy either right now.  Honestly, if the Wii U looked like it would be getting decent multiplatform support, I'd be fine without either other console.  Since that doesn't seem to be happening, I'll probably ride the fence until next year's E3, and make a decision then.