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The policies are quite bad. But it just isn't bad enough to kill my interest in some Xbox One exclusives.

Sony fans should actually be happy about this. Its going to help the sales of the preferred platform. Instead, they piss and moan at us consumers willing to tolerate MS's policies.



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I'm not a Sony fanboy in the slightest. In fact I'm not an anything fanboy.

And yes, MS' new policies ARE BS. Sorry, but point nullified.



JinxRake said:
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/ubisoft-ceo-says-used-games-good-for-industry-6409608/
^ Interesting back pedaling here.

I would like to see hard facts in what you're saying.

I wonder what you'll concede to have taken away from your own rights once this proves not to be the problem and that the business model is still broken. But hey, go ahead, who cares about principles and rights anymore, no?

With companies like EA and Ubisoft appearing to be backpedaling, it is further proof that we SHOULDN'T stop bitching and complaining, but rather keep it going.



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DJEVOLVE said:
Turkish said:
YES THEY ARE! Its unbelievable people are defending the online checks and used game policy, really unbelievable.

Even if I had a perfect connection which I and millions of others dont, the 24h check would still suck! I dont want to be restricted in any kind of form.

The feeling alone that I need to check in with MS every 24h to play my 60 euro game is putting me off, and so should it you.

Your phone checks in and if you don't pay your bill your phone is worthless. So you accept that.

Your phone is not useless though, to add to the things the2real4mafol and Turkish have said. The only implication if you do that is that cannot call (or send text messages to) anyone anymore. I could still do everything else.

And that's the point. All the restrictions limit the player from doing what he/she wants to do. Maybe not now, but it will in the future. What happens in a couple of years when Microsoft decides to no longer support some game or the service itself altogether? You're basically left with a brick. There's no way to justify that, as there is absolutely no reason to limit the player into using the most core aspects of the (a) system; single-player gaming and media functions. Why must it do that?It's just there to tease you, basically what Cobretti2 and bonkers555 said. If they really want to go with this online integration, the only implication should have been, if something goes wrong or cancelled, the loss of multiplayer gaming functionality. And that's a big one already.

Not to mention the used-games fiasco and Big Brother issues that come with it and the Kinect requirements.



sub-zero-TM said:
OMG! and yes it's that bad! i don't understand how can anyone support this console!? -_-


The PS3 already has forms of DRM, how do you support it?



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Mr Puggsly said:

The policies are quite bad. But it just isn't bad enough to kill my interest in some Xbox One exclusives.

Sony fans should actually be happy about this. Its going to help the sales of the preferred platform. Instead, they piss and moan at us consumers willing to tolerate MS's policies.


Main reason people might do that is because: Xbox 360 had pay for online Xbox live, PS4 now has pay for online PS plus. Xbox One has no used games, DRM, etc. PS5 now has etc.

 

OT: There is quite a few MS fanboys that are now not getting Xbox One because of its policies, so it is not just Sony fanboys. This issue is big and will probably be talked about the entire generation, probably more then pay for online Xbox live did.



I have internet and never had problems with it for over a period of 24h.
But when I go on a cross country trip on my RV why won't my "gaming" console work?
When I go to my country visit my parents, whom have no internet connection, why won't my "gaming" console work?
Another question is, will you be able to keep your rented games that you buy the licenses for, after MS pull the plug on its servers?



Mr Puggsly said:

The policies are quite bad. But it just isn't bad enough to kill my interest in some Xbox One exclusives.

Sony fans should actually be happy about this. Its going to help the sales of the preferred platform. Instead, they piss and moan at us consumers willing to tolerate MS's policies.

Not everything is related to a persons love or hatred for specific consoles. I don't understand why gamers only see things this way.

 

I would bet it has more to do with people fearing that if people just accept these policies and "deal with it", then what is to stop it from becoming an industry standard or the possibility of these corporations trying to take things one step further?

This is why I believe there is such an outcry. Many do not believe the long term effects of this is good for the industry and the hobby they love.



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XBO policies are bad for costumers.   They restrict gamer a lot and take away the right to do whatever I want with my game.   I really dont understand how are M$ supporters so happy about this nonsense. Why do you like your rights to be taken away? Most probably most of them live in USA; so they are used to this stuff.

You don't have the freedom to sell your games to anyone you want; you just can sell it to a M$ partner retailers (Gamestop). And it is even worst in other parts of the world in which Gamestop dont exist.

Your disk is basically a piece of garbage; since you cant play the games from it. Imagine if M$ goes out of the gaming business; how the hell would you download your games? Or if they got hacked? And dont tell me they dont; because they do. What the hell would you do?

You need internet authentication every 24. internet sometimes goes down; $hit happens; and because of that you would not be able to play your games. Funny thing is how I talking with my brother about this; and then the internet connection went out....priceless. 

You can only give your game for 30 days to a friend. What If after I used it; I decided to give it to him as a gift? Well, he is screwed because after the 30 days the game wont work.

And there is even more crap that is way to wrong. They should not have any control on how the hell I use MY OWN stuff; stuff that I bought with my hard work. And even all that DRM nonsense is damaging M$ since they wont be able to sell the console in unsupported countries.

When your policies screw the costumer and yourself; you have to admit there is something unbelievably wrong with them.

In the end your ownership of games you bought is really crippled. I wont support the XBO; and I dont give a damn how many console exclusives they have. It is as simple as that. The right to do whatever the hell I want to do with my stuff is a fundamental thing that I dont have the intention of giving up.



It's not about the internet, it's not about the cost of the live subscription. It's about the fundamental issue of whether I *own* the stuff I buy. With MS, you'll have a $500 box in your living room that allows you to rent stuff owned by other corporations for $60 a pop. Internet down for 24 hours? Oh well, MS has just removed your rental privileges.

Think your publisher is going to allow you to play your favourite game 5 years from now? You better hope they do so out of their compassionate hearts, because there is nothing that will force them to.

No thanks. If I'm going to spend 100's of $ on something, it better be something I own.