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Max King of the Wild on 07 June 2013
TheSting said:
It's in their system though correct?



Incorrect



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adriane23 on 07 June 2013
ethomaz said:
adriane23 said:
Yeah, I get the feeling that many MS fans are just hoping and praying SONY implements the same anti-consumer policies, so the XBox One doesn't seem as bad as it is.

The panic? I'm reading this word a lot in VGC after I came back from the 10 days ban.

Yep, they're freakin out. Blind faith only goes so far.

 

But more importantly. You were banned???



I am the Playstation Avenger.

   

Subie_Greg on 07 June 2013
Normando said:
Yeah, I don't understand the threads about Sonys DRM being similar to MS. It's really not even close.


100% agree



ethomaz on 07 June 2013

adriane23 said:

But more importantly. You were banned???

Yeahhhhh... I'm trying to became the user most banned ever in VGC lol... just in May I had two bans (15 days)



TheSting on 07 June 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
TheSting said:
It's in their system though correct?



Incorrect


How can they leave it up to publishers if it isn't even possible in their system? 

What am I missing? 



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RazorDragon on 07 June 2013
Max King of the Wild said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-21-playstation-4-does-not-require-an-internet-connection

Does the PlayStation 4 always need to be connected to the internet, I asked?

"You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected," he suggested. "The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita."

Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?

"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

You can also go offline totally and play offline with the Xbox One. You just need to make it go online every 24hrs. His answer is vague, IMO.

Max King of the Wild said:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/sony-rules-out-always-online-for-ps4-report-6408071

Sony president of Worldwide Studios, Shuhei Yoshida, said that a constant Internet connection would not be required from users, given the differences in web services available across the globe.

“Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it," said Yoshida. "The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw [that] do not really have robust Internet.”

 

 

So, online registration is up to the publishers and online isn't required... If someone without an internet connection puts their used game in the publishers would never know. For those of you saying Sony has dodged questions they have been straight forward since the reveal. They have never changed their answers. I don't believe Sony ever planed to implement DRM. I don't know where this site wide notion has come from.

As for used games,

http://www.vg247.com/2013/05/22/xbox-one-and-ps4-games-can-be-re-sold-confirms-gamestop-president/

Speaking with Forbes, Bartel said, “Both Sony and Microsoft have said games can be resold and that’s exactly what we anticipated"

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/21/sonys-yushida-used-games-can-play-on-a-ps4/

In news that should keep parties going until the early morning at Gamestops everywhere, Sony Worldwide Studios boss Shuhei Yoshida tellsEurogamer that used games will still play on the PlayStation 4.

 

 

If sony were going to use the watermark patent (which sites reported Sony denied it was for the Ps4) then how could they say used games would work... Especially since they don't require the internet. How the hell could they possibly enforce it? I'll give you a hint... they cant.

Internet won't be required if they use the RFID tag patent. Yoshida said that they never thought of using an always online DRM system, not once mentioning used games in his sentence. Using the RFID tag wouldn't require the PS4 to be always online and it would allow games to be resold if the system was connected on the internet. You could still play the system totally offline if you bought new games only.

Anyway, I guess we should all wait till Sony clarifies it's DRM policy officially on the PS4 site like MS did on the Xbox site. Their responses till now have been very vague, so don't be surprised if not everyone believes in what was said like you do.



Max King of the Wild on 07 June 2013
Purple said:
Max King of the Wild said:

"At a roundtable this morning, Sony's game studios chief, Shuhei Yoshida, told reporters that any requirement for users to register a game online in order to play it would be left to game publishers. Sony won't require that." (Emphasis added.) Apologies for missing that during our attempts to clarify just how similar or dissimilar Sony's next-gen policies are from Microsoft's." 


I've been a little out of the loop with the whole fiasco, but isn't this what Microsoft are doing as well? No registration needed for first party games, but up to publishers for third party?

No, MS has a whole mandatory online check that ties the game to the account and you can't rent or loan games at launch and when you are able to eventually at a later date you can loan it a grand total of 1 time to someone who has been on your friend list for over 30 days that you need to give permission to and leaves your console as a blu-ray player if you don't connect everyday... However, in addition to that system MS will also allow third parties to fuck you harder if they want to include online passes.





osed125 on 07 June 2013

This are still very vague answers. We can spin all this quotes and we won't get an absolute answers. We have to wait a few days to get an honest and direct answer from Sony (and more importantly 3rd party publishers).



Nintendo and PC gamer

Busted on 07 June 2013

Well thank you...



Max King of the Wild on 07 June 2013
TheSting said:
Max King of the Wild said:
 

 

How can they leave it up to publishers if it isn't even possible in their system? 

What am I missing? 

I should have said, "No evidence to support that." What you are missing is Sony stating online registration... that would mean its on 3rd party servers.